Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 04 April 2018 14:00UTC

Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 04 April 2018 14:00UTC

ATTENDANCE

  Todd Albers
  Kenneth Bengtsson
  Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
  Peter Borresen
  G. Ken Holman (convener)
  Ole Madsen
  Enric Staromiejski Torregrosa

 Regrets received in advance:

  Kees Duvekot

 Pacific call attendance

  Todd Albers
  Kenneth Bengtsson
  G. Ken Holman (convener)
  Levine Naidoo
  Matt Vickers


REFERENCING THE SPECIFICATION

     - the following should be used as a specific citation:
       OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015)
     - the following would be used for a general (any version) citation:
       OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845)
     - the canonical documents are available in the OASIS repository:
       http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/
     - the ISO/IEC catalogue entry is found at:
       http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htmÜÛ?umber=66370
     - the ISO/IEC document and attachments are found at:
       http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/


STANDING ITEMS

    Additions to events calendar: http://ubl.xml.org/events
     - no new events to add at this time

    Review of Pacific call minutes
       https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201804/msg00001.html

    Review of Atlantic call minutes
       https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201803/msg00019.html

    Membership status review
     https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership
     https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=ubl
     https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ubl/members/roster.php?num_items=80

     - voting status is determined by the following:
       - existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to
         maintain voting status
       - non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain
         voting status
       - members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and
         their voting status is not impacted
     - current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical) and relationships:
       - Todd Albers
         - Member ASC X9 AB, Member ISO 20022 Payment SEG, Member W3C Web
           Payments Interest Group, Business Payments Coalition
       - Oriol Bausà Peris
         - Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML, Editor TC434 Validation
       - Kenneth Bengtsson
         - Chair OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT
       - Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
         - Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS
         - Member CEN/TC434/WS8
       - Peter Borresen
         - DK Member CEN/TC440, Assistant Convenor CEN/TC440/WG7
       - Kees Duvekot
         - Member OASIS BDXR
       - Cécile Guasch
         - Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG1, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG2,
           European Commission liaison (DIGIT Interoperability Unit)
       - G. Ken Holman
         - Member OASIS BDXR, CA Member JTC 1/SC32, CA Expert UN/CEFACT
       - Ole Ellerbæk Madsen
         - DK Member CEN/TC440, CEN/TC440 Liaison JTC 1/SC 32
       - Levine Naidoo
         - Member OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, Member Fintech Australia
     - members gaining voting status after this meeting:
       - Matt Vickers
     - members losing voting status after this meeting:
       - Cécile Guasch
     - members approaching gaining voting status after next meeting:
       - Enric Staromiejski Torregrosa
     - members approaching losing voting status after next meeting:
       - Oriol Bausà Peris
       - Kees Duvekot
     - active non-voting members
       - Matt Vickers, Xero
         - Member OASIS BDXR, Member US Business Payments Coalition
       - Enric Staromiejski Torregrosa
         - Member OASIS ebXML, European Commission liaison (DG GROWTH)
       - Roberto Cisternino
         - IT Expert UN/CEFACT
       - Audun Vennesland
     - new member orientation information:
       https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=59647


UBL 2.2
  - Ole managing requirements for pre-award documents
  - Kees managing requirements for post-award documents
  - Peter managing requirements for transportation documents
  - Roberto managing requirements for party information documents

  - UBL 2.2 Committee Specification 01 is published:

     http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/cs01-UBL-2.2/UBL-2.2.html

  - we have 3 statements of use have been submitted, but we will take more:

    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201803/msg00025.html

    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/201804/msg00000.html

    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201804/msg00003.html

  - the Candidate OASIS Standard will be prepared for a voting meeting April
    11, 2018 where we will vote to accept the statements of use and vote to
    progress our Committee Specification to be an OASIS Standard

  - countdown to standardization outlined in our UBL Governance document:

    http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/UBL-Governance/v1.0/cn01/UBL-Governance-v1.0-cn01.html#S-THE-PATHWAY-TO-STANDARDIZATION

    - mid-April committee votes for a Candidate OASIS Standard
    - 60-day public review of COS1 over by the end of June
    - 14-day OASIS member ballot at beginning of July
    - late July UBL 2.2 becomes an OASIS Standard
    - mid-August we will begin the ISO revision process for ISO/IEC 19845
    - we are already 8 months from our original objective of end of 2017


UBL 2.3
  - a posting has been made to the mail archives so that it can be cited
    in other correspondence:

    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201702/msg00006.html

  - Ole managing requirements for pre-award documents
  - Kees managing requirements for post-award documents
  - Peter managing requirements for transportation documents
  - Kenneth and Todd managing requirements for payments and finance documents
  - Roberto managing requirements for party information documents
  - all subcommittee and task group leaders are asked to taken on the
    assignment of JIRA tickets from the current list of "Later" tickets,
    and open each one:
      https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972
    - there should be none left for Ken when this task is done
  - we should further consider the idea raised earlier of splitting UBL into
    different normative parts
  - reminder about the calendar for UBL 2.3:
    - working drafts at the end of 2018
    - final OASIS Standard at the end of 2019
    - final ISO Standard at the end of 2020
  - new requirements identified in Europe:
    - pre-award catalogue
    - contract information


UBL Payments and Finance Subcommittee
  - upcoming face-to-face during the Exchange Summit Americas conference
    http://www.exchange-summit.com/exa/miami May 8-9, 2017 in Miami, Florida
  - consider hosting a public information session during the conference
  - work on hold until around April
  - what is needed in order to accommodate cryptocurrencies for payments?
    - possibly either payment means or payment channel


Outreach and communications
  - work progressing on analyzing current communication channels
       https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-adoption/201710/msg00001.html


UBL Transportation Subcommittee
  - new document types discussed at the face-to-face


OASIS Business Document Naming and Design Rules
  - Ken to prototype proposed augmented extension mechanism first discussed
    at the Fremantle face-to-face:
    - add an extension point at the beginning of *every* ABIE, not just the
      document ABIEs
    - ticket created to track online discussion:
      https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-174
  - working extensible UBL 2.1 schemas link posted to the ticket
    - Martin notified and he is contacting his industry colleagues who need it
  - 2018-02-22 discussion preserved for more discussion:
    - concerns based on real-world implementations of UBL where, without prior
      experience, and who do not have a data model that matches UBL, then UBL
      is very complex
    - what has been seen are very grave examples of claiming conformance but
      just throwing it into an extension rather than using the appropriate
      data element from UBL because it is easy to do so
    - maybe even up to 70% of the document shows up in the extension rather
      than in standard business objects
    - adding more extension points makes it more attractive to put one's data