If this is an official list of people who participated the conf call
today, please correct the list. I joined to conf call at about 11:10am,
quit at about 12:30pm and re-joined at 1pm. I am (all EST) not able to
use IRC, only by phone. Thanks.
Sazi Temel
At 04:58 PM 5/21/2003 -0400, Rand Anderson wrote:
All,
I think I was able to
capture a complete transcript of the session - see attached.
The only edits I made
were to snip activity prior to meeting start and after meeting
adjourn.
This is a DOC file - I
would have posted as simple text but the emoticons get dropped. If
another format is preferred, let me know.
Thanks again, Bernd, for
spearheading this service.
HTH,
Rand
-----Original Message-----
From: Eckenfels. Bernd
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Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 2:25 PM
To:
Subject: [wsbpel] Irc Notes
Hello everybody,
attached you find a (incomplete) log
file of the chat this morning. I have (hopefully) removed all
IP-Addresses, so no security problem should be associated with sending
this around.
Some points/ideas about the IRC
thing:
- the server is open for you to try, may
experience some downtimes, while I work on it. I might add a direct IRC
access with clients, cause this is more efficient for those of you who
already use irc clients
- Rand suggested the live script, and I
think this is a good idea, for phone and f2f
meetings:
o setting up a channel where
observers can join, but only the secretary and chair can
write
(this is especially good for the f2f meeting to
announce new agenda points for people waiting to dial
in)
- Danny suggested to accept "raise
hands" for the speaker queue in addition to the phone by
irc
(this is good since it minimizes the
interruption, and the speaker queue manager can easily read full names.
No disadvantage for non-irc speakers, they can use the traditional phone
way, which works anyway. SQ manger is semi trusted to present the state
of the queue in regular intervals.)
- Background discussions (in an open
un-moderated channel)
(this is good for exchanging links, but
it is also bad because it generates some background discussions, might
not be a good thing for formal meetings)
<<irclog.txt>>
Some open points I
discovered:
- some people had problems with access,
I need more input
- overview on who is who is a bit
missing if you are not experienced with the /whois function, I can fix
that (with a modification or other software)
- registration would be good, because
the service may be subject to deny of service (malicious or by accident
like a big cut+paste)
(this is actually the reason why
I did not open direct irc client access, because I was not confident of
"good" configuration)
If irc gets more official than that
(besides accepting hand-raising and producing transcripts) the
functionality for ad-hoc voting and even speaker queue can be added, but
I do not propose to go this way, till we all are more comfortable with
the other two points I have proposed.
Later this week I send a short documentation
(and might even switch the web front-end) to the
list.
For the meeting I will set up a
"open" channel #bpel-discuss, an moderated #bpel-transcript
(and provide some introductions on how to use them).
Greetings
Bernd
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