Title: Irc Notes
All,
I think I was able to capture a complete transcript
of the session - see attached.
The only edits I made were to snip
activity prior to meeting start and after meeting adjourn.
This is a DOC file - I would have
posted as simple text but the emoticons get dropped. If another format is
preferred, let me know.
Thanks again, Bernd, for spearheading this
service.
HTH,
Rand
-----Original Message-----
From: Eckenfels. Bernd
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Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 2:25
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Subject: [wsbpel] Irc Notes
Hello everybody,
attached you find a (incomplete) log file of the chat
this morning. I have (hopefully) removed all IP-Addresses, so no security
problem should be associated with sending this around.
Some points/ideas about the IRC thing:
- the server is open for you to try, may experience
some downtimes, while I work on it. I might add a direct IRC access with
clients, cause this is more efficient for those of you who already use irc
clients
- Rand suggested the live script, and I think this is
a good idea, for phone and f2f meetings:
o setting up a channel where observers can
join, but only the secretary and chair can write
(this is especially good for the f2f meeting to
announce new agenda points for people waiting to dial in)
- Danny suggested to accept "raise hands"
for the speaker queue in addition to the phone by irc
(this is good since it minimizes the interruption,
and the speaker queue manager can easily read full names. No disadvantage for
non-irc speakers, they can use the traditional phone way, which works anyway.
SQ manger is semi trusted to present the state of the queue in regular
intervals.)
- Background discussions (in an open un-moderated
channel)
(this is good for exchanging links, but it is also
bad because it generates some background discussions, might not be a good thing
for formal meetings)
<<irclog.txt>>
Some open points I discovered:
- some people had problems with access, I need more
input
-
overview on who is who is a bit missing if you are not experienced with the
/whois function, I can fix that (with a modification or other software)
- registration would be good, because the service may
be subject to deny of service (malicious or by accident like a big cut+paste)
(this is actually the reason why I did not
open direct irc client access, because I was not confident of "good"
configuration)
If irc gets more official than that (besides
accepting hand-raising and producing transcripts) the functionality for ad-hoc
voting and even speaker queue can be added, but I do not propose to go this
way, till we all are more comfortable with the other two points I have
proposed.
Later this week I send a short documentation (and
might even switch the web front-end) to the list.
For the meeting I will set up a "open"
channel #bpel-discuss, an moderated #bpel-transcript (and provide some
introductions on how to use them).
Greetings
Bernd
OASIS WS-BPEL TC 20030521 IRC Transcript.doc
