David,
With due respects, my main point based on seven years of intense and
focused practical deployment experience with regrep is that regrep's
main purpose in life is as a "System of Record" and that is not "just
one isolated use case for Registry". I believe that is true in
"geospatial coordination, secure patient record federation, semantic XML
content, document cataloguing, and so on".
I made it clear in my original suggestion that I will make it clear
during the presentation that RegRep's uses are way more than SOA.
However, SOA is the focus of our presentation as I recall to be agreed
by the TC.
Therefor with due respects, I still feel the following is the best title:
"
OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository
The System of Record for SOA Governace
"
If necessary, I am willing to live with:
"
OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository
The System of Record for SOA Deployments
"
David RR Webber (XML) wrote:
> Farrukh,
> My point is that "system of record" is just one isolated use case for
> Registry.
> I see that registry is being used for geospatial coordination, secure
> patient record federation, semantic XML content, document cataloguing,
> and so on.
> The SOA system of record is IMHO way too narrow here. The ebxml
> registry is not just a UDDI look-a-like for SOA as its main purpose...
> Of course the real SOA use case here is articulated by OASIS BCM
> spec's and registry model - but then we'd have to explain BCM first
; -)
> Anyway - you all are doing the present not me - I guess next time I
> can sign up to do
> "ebXML Registry - Beyond SOA System of Record"
> ; -)
> DW
>
> "The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.)
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar
> From: "Farrukh S. Najmi" <>
> Date: Sat, May 12, 2007 1:32 pm
> To: "David RR Webber (XML)" <>
> Cc: ebXML Regrep <>
>
>
> Based on my customer experience, Governance is the most pressing
> need in SOA today
> and fortunately that is precisely where RegRep helps the most.
>
> "Enabling" is too fuzzy and does not capture the central role that
> RegRep plays in SOA which is
> that it is "The System of Record" for SOA deployments. My wife
> acuses me of being an "enabler"
> for my children's delinquencies ;-)
>
> You can see that point being drilled home by practically anyone
> who is selling a SOA Repository:
>
>
> Infravio:
> "Create a *system of record* for your SOA metadata – policies,
> schema, .docs, performance *..."
> *<http://www1.webmethods.com/PDF/datasheets/Infravio_X-Registry_Datasheet.pdf>*
>
> *Systinet:*
> *"Systinet provides the “*system of record*” for SOA and *...*
> Must provide the “*system* *of record*”"
> <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/17235/Systinet%20Registry%20NASA%20Presentation%203-15-06.pdf>
>
> IBM WSRR:
> "In this context, *WSRR* handles the metadata management aspects
> of operational services and provides the *system of record* of
> these metadata artefacts "
> <http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/sr/v6r0/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.sr.doc/cwsr_overview_overview04.html>
>
> BEA:
> "The BEA AquaLogic Service Registry, through an embedded
> governance framework, acts as a central location for managing the
> services life cycle. It makes an SOA more transparent by serving
> as the *system of record* where services..."
> <http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/BEAS/124821163x0x84099/9502bab0-de1a-4a7c-b20a-292459a97a24/q3BEA%20At%20A%20Glance.pdf>
> "It provides a *system-of-record* for these policies and is used
> to define and enforce business policies. enlarge. AquaLogic
> Service *Registry* is employed *..."*
> <http://es.bea.com/products/aqualogic/service_registry>
>
> Oracle:
> "leverage *Oracle* Service *Registry* to publish and advertise
> services and enable *...* It also serves as the *System of Record*
> for all. "
> <http://www.oracle.com/technologies/soa/oracle-soa-suite-datasheet.pdf
> >
>
> Tibco:
> "TIBCO ActiveMatrix *Registry* is a standards-. based *system of
> record* for discovering, *...*"
> <http://www.tibco.com/resources/software/soa/ds_activematrix_*registry*.pdf>
>
> Actional:
> "A SOA *system of record*, or *registry*, is designed to be a
> central holding place for information about service consumers,
> providers, policies, *...*"
> <http://www.actional.com/resources/webinars/SOA-Lifecycle/SOA-System.html
> >
>
> IONA:
> "Artix *Registry*/Repository enables customers to design, build,
> deploy and manage a network of business services by providing a
> complete *system of record* of *...**"*
> <http://www.iona.com/pressroom/2007/20070326.htm >
>
> SOA Software:
> "All SOA Software products rely on an underlying UDDIv3 *Registry*
> as a core repository and *system of record* for service data. The
> product are all fully *..."
> <*www.soa.com/index.php/section/products/*registry*_manager/>
>
>
> For this reason I feel *very strongly* about "The System of
> Record" part of the title as that is precisely the role of RegRep
> in SOA.
>
> If the term "governance" is an issue then how about:
>
> "
> OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository
> The System of Record for SOA Deployments
> "
>
> Thanks.
>
> David RR Webber (XML) wrote:
>> Farrukh,
>> You need something catchy, short and to the point -
>> OASIS ebXML Registry Repository - enabling SOA solutions
>> Since OASIS is the sponsor - no need to muddy the waters with
>> inserting ISO too.
>> Also - the aim should be to catch peoples interest - and have
>> them attend - not drive them away!!!
>> So your title is to specific - what if the reader thinks - "huh -
>> my business needs are nothing to do with "governance" - my CFO
>> just wants me to help sales of more widgets".
>> Perhaps I do need to understand possible "SOA solutions" for that.
>> Think marketing - not technobabble ; -)
>> DW
>>
>> "The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.)
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar
>> From: "Farrukh S. Najmi" <>
>> Date: Fri, May 11, 2007 3:48 pm
>> To: "David RR Webber (XML)" <>
>> Cc: ebXML Regrep <>
>>
>> What exactly is a "Service Oriented Arcitecture
Architectures" and how
>> is it better than
>> "Service Oriented Arcitecture"?
>>
>>
>> David RR Webber (XML) wrote:
>> > Farrukh,
>> >
>> > Seems to pigeon hole you too much.
>> >
>> > What about - "OASIS ebXML Registry Repository - enabling SOA
>> > architectures.
>> >
>> > DW
>> >
>> > "The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.)
>> >
>> >
>> > -------- Original Message --------
>> > Subject: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar
>> > From: "Farrukh S. Najmi"
< <#Compose>>
>> > Date: Fri, May 11, 2007 12:39 pm
>> > To: ebXML Regrep <
<#Compose>>
>> >
>> > Dear colleagues,
>> >
>> > I would like to propose the following title:
>> >
>> > "
>> > OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository
>> >
>> > The System of Record for SOA Governance
>> > "
>> >
>> > Note that "Record" in prioposed title implies any
type of
>> information.
>> >
>> > This title focuses the presentation on use of RegRep
as a SOA
>> Repository
>> > and key enabler for SOA Governance.
>> >
>> > We can make sure we explain upfront that RegRep can
support many
>> other
>> > diverse use cases but that the
>> > presentation will focus on this specific one to make
it more
>> concrete
>> > for this use case.
>> >
>> > Please let me know what you think of the title. Also
is it too
>> late for
>> > us to change to Webinar title to match whatever we
decide?
>> >
>> > Carl, Nikola and I will work on the draft slides and
plan to
>> have an
>> > initial slide deck for team review by next TC meeting.
>> > Nikola and I got start on this earlier this week.
Thanks.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Regards,
>> > Farrukh
>> >
>> > Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com
<http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com/>
>> <http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com/>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Farrukh
>>
>> Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com
<http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com/>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Farrukh
>
> Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com
>
>
>
--
Regards,
Farrukh
Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com
