RE: [oasis-member-discuss] FW: Possible change to TC voting rules - input requested

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RE: [oasis-member-discuss] FW: Possible change to TC voting rules - input requested
Hi David,

 

I think I was saying what you thought I
was saying, which is that it would be an improvement to try to get companies to
come up with company positions on committee issues.  That could be done
without preventing the pro and con arguments from being presented, but it would
help by cutting down on the public resolution of what are by definition
internal debates.  In the end companies can’t really advocate for
conflicting positions on TC issues.  I mean I guess they could but that
would most of the time show that they don’t have a clear position and
that would be another reason it would help to cut down on that kind of thing.

 

I sometimes see companies investing effort
in committees to ensure they have as many representatives attend a TC as
another company, or to potentially balance or stack a particular vote, and that
doesn’t seem very positive to me.  Also if we are going to see
companies invest more in sending more people to committees for the purpose of
raising issues and propagating debates, that would seem to slow things down
more than speed them up.

 

I am not talking about restricting
attendance just that I would see it helpful to restrict voting.

 

A lot of your questions seems to
presuppose the answer – which is that you prefer things to remain as they
are.  That’s fine but I am just saying things don’t have to
stay as they are and could be improved.

 

Eric

 

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From: David RR Webber
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Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006
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To: Newcomer, Eric

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[oasis-member-discuss] FW: Possible change to TC voting rules - input requested

 

Eric,

 

I'm not completely following what you are saying here?  Why should
we be eliminating committee debate?

 

Having just one company - one vote - is likely to mean that companies
invest LESS effort in committees - and surely that is a bad thing?  Also
bad is the notion that company staff cannot freely work out differences in the
TC process - or participate openly - for me that is the essense of what OASIS
is - not fettered by company mandates - but open peer review.  

 

I'd hate to see the situation where we are institutionalizing companies
working behind closed doors to determine their own position(s) and then
bringing that to the TC.  Much better that the TC foster open debate.

 

OASIS is supposed to be a public process that maximizes participation  -
how is what you are saying in alignment with that?

 

Thanks, DW

 

-------- Original Message --------

Subject: [oasis-member-discuss] FW: Possible change to TC voting rules

- input requested

From: "Newcomer, Eric" <>

Date: Fri, October 27, 2006 3:53 pm

To: <>

I think a one company one vote rule would be an improvement.  It would

help eliminate some amount of committee debate (especially among

representatives of the same company) and help streamline votes.  

Eric

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Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 6:57 PM

To: Newcomer, Eric

Subject: Possible change to TC voting rules - input requested

Dear IONA Technologies* Primary Contact

   Please look at the following message about a possible change to TC

voting rules:

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oasis-member-discuss/

email/archives/200610/msg00000.html

  and if you are so inclined please respond as requested to oasis-



  thanks,

   jeff

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