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Subject: Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 21 November 2012 17:00UTC
MINUTES OF ATLANTIC UBL TC TELECONFERENCE WEDNESDAY 21 NOVEMBER 2012 17:00UTC
ATTENDANCE
Oriol Bausa
Kenneth Bengtsson
Peter Borresen
Kees Duvekot
G. Ken Holman (convener)
Referred to in minutes by first name:
Arianna Brutti
Martin Forsberg
Tim McGrath
Jim Melton
Andy Schoka
Audun Vennesland
STANDING ITEMS
Additions to the calendar:
http://ubl.xml.org/events
For interest (but not on the calendar):
2012-12-14 Seminar on Electronic Procurement - An opportunity
to provide feedback on Commission projects
http://ec.europa.eu/internal_market/publicprocurement/e-procurement/conferences/index_en.htm
Review of Pacific call minutes (copied below as agenda items)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201211/msg00025.html
Review of Atlantic call minutes
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201211/msg00009.html
Membership status review
https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=ubl
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ubl/members/roster.php?num_items=80
Please try to attend and gain voting status in preparation
for the important committee process steps coming up.
UBL 2.1 PRD3 DEFINITION REVIEW
Actions from previous meetings:
2012-11-14 - all - draft spreadsheet to Ken H.
- done
Status of PSC definition review. When will final changes go to Ken H.?
- should be December 1
- good task to do as issues of cardinality have been found
Status of TSC definition review. When will final changes go to Ken H.?
- Andy observed that definition review of those business objects where the
cardinality might have to change in the model is more important
(time-wise)
to the other definitions. It was noted that any changes in cardinality
will require yet another issue of the schemas.
AGREED that whatever definitions we have in place on December 1, 2012 are
the definitions that we will use for PRD3.
Andy also noted the need for expertise on customs issues. If anyone can
specifically help with these issues, please contact TSC. Ref:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-tsc/201211/msg00001.html
UBL 2.1 PRD3 HUBDOC
Actions from previous meetings:
2012-11-14 - Ken H. - revise Acknowledgements list with latest
affiliations in OASIS roster
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201211/msg00022.html
- done
2012-11-14 - all - production guidance for "uml/" directory
- Tim reports an upgrade to the UML model of XML Spy that
may do what we want
2012-11-14 - Ken H. - contact Jim, Martin and Audun regarding
an SQL tool
- done; no response
UBL 2.1 PRD3 Model
Status of PSC model work. When will final changes to go Arianna?
- spent meeting in Barcelona with new issues regarding CEN/BII2
that have been incorporated into the changes
- another PSC meeting will be called for next week
Status of TSC model work:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201211/msg00023.html
(Note the comment above regarding possible changes in cardinalities
after a definition review)
Status of request from Turkish Localization:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/201211/msg00000.html
- added to the PSC agenda for the next PSC meeting
Code list review: Ken H. posted the list of expected code list files to
be in UBL 2.1, and the source of information for each. For those lists
not sourced by UN/CEFACT web sites, please advise if anyone knows where
definitive sources can be found.
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201211/msg00015.html
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201211/msg00017.html
Tim observed that we need to add a code list for days of the week. Does
any member know of such a standardized code list?
Important question for PSC and TSC both to consider regarding addition of
PartyRoleCode to the definition of a Party:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201211/msg00027.html
- Kees commented that the context of the Party provides sufficient
distinction so as not to require the addition of PartyRole, and this
was agreed to by Oriol
- Ken H. to email Peter to ask him to comment on the TC list
- members asked to further comment on the TC list without cross-posting
to the other lists
Ken H. to produce SGTG PRD3 draft schemas for review when models are done
and will use December 1 definitions.
- Kees noted that http://www.schemacentral.com/sc/ubl21/ss.html has a
copy of PRD2 posted according to Schema Central conventions and that
he finds these conventions make for a useful resource
ACTION SUMMARY
2012-11-14 - all - production guidance needed for "uml/" directory
2012-11-21 - all - does anyone know of a code list for days of the week?
2012-11-21 - all - customs guidance needed for TSC
2012-11-21 - Ken H. - contact Peter regarding Party discussion
TC CONCALL SCHEDULE
Established in last week's meetings:
New Pacific call date/time: Wednesdays 01:00UTC
New Atlantic call date/time: Wednesdays 17:00UTC
Question to Atlantic call members: would an earlier or later time be
more convenient in order to avoid the dinner hour, thus increasing
Atlantic call attendance?
- this question is deferred for a few weeks and will be brought up later
- it was noted that 15:00UTC is not the best for everyone but is better
than the current time of 17:00UTC for more people than not
- we will look into this time change sometime in December but not now
(Note the Pacific call takes place Tuesday evenings west of the
Atlantic Ocean)
Week of 2012-11-26 - Regular calls
Week of 2012-12-03 - Regular calls
Week of 2012-12-10 - Regular calls
Week of 2012-12-17 - Regular calls
Week of 2012-12-24 - no calls
Week of 2012-12-31 - no calls
Week of 2013-01-07 - TBD during week of 2012-12-17
OTHER BUSINESS
During the call a question of IPR regarding CEN/BII was raised. Oriol
will take the issue to BII WG1 for clarification: how open for free
use are the BII schemas, code lists, documentation and other artefacts?
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