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Subject: Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 5|6 December 2005
MINUTES OF PACIFIC UBL TC MEETING
00H30 - 02H30 UTC TUESDAY 6 DECEMBER 2005
ATTENDANCE
Jon Bosak (chair)
Stephen Green
G. Ken Holman
Tim McGrath (vice chair)
Andy Schoka
Kumar Sivaraman
STANDING ITEMS
Additions to the calendar:
http://ibiblio.org/bosak/ubl/calendar.htm
None.
Subcommittee report: SBSC
TM: A group of consultants in Australia has developed UML
models based on the SBS -- nothing that changes the
semantics of UBL, just a subset of the full UBL model -- to
represents how CEFACT is planning to express core
components. They have obtained permission from the
Australian government to allow us to include the diagrams in
the SBS package. See http://govdex.gov.au .
AGREED to add these diagrams to the SBS package in advance
of the next public review.
JB: Several comments on the SBS:
1. In the PDF version, the URLs to subsidiary documents
don't resolve. We don't have to get this fixed right
now, but we will have to deal with it before final
publication.
2. The document says:
It is intended that any party wishing to limit
their own UBL implementation to the Small Business
Subset (SBS) SHOULD indicate this in their trading
partner agreements (or the equivalent) with the
relevant UBL schema URI and URL and with the URI
and URL associated with the respective Small
Business Subset definition document.
But a URL *is* a URI. So this passage needs to be
reworded.
3. The SBSC needs to at least revisit the use of
SHOULD/SHOULD NOT vs. MUST/MUST NOT in section 2.1.
In particular, the use of SHOULD in the lead sentence
of 2.1 to refer to "normative business rules" needs to
be confirmed. Perhaps the SBSC can define the meaning
of compliance with regard to the SBS.
4. The spreadsheets should be made available in ODF as
well as Excel format.
AGREED that the SBSC will consider this input before
completing SBS CD2.
AGREED that it's OK to put out the SBS for an informal
review over the winter break and then proceed immediately to
formal review as soon as possible thereafter.
Liaison report: UN/CEFACT
JB: The negotiating team meets Wednesday morning to consider
OASIS input.
TM: It's going to be difficult to plan for the coordination
with TMG and ATG now that we no longer have liaisons
tracking the CCTS and ATG2 activities.
JB: Let's bring this up in the UN/UBL call Wednesday.
Liaison report: X12
KS: The new chair is still busy; we'll check back with him
later.
Subcommittee report: HISC
GKH: In Ottawa, we modified the output specs for the eight
UBL doc types to reflect our new box-oriented approach to
layout; could we extend this to the new doc types at the
meeting in Manhattan?
JB: Not without your participation. This is part of the
Support Package, so it can wait till you come back.
Team report: Code Lists
GKH: Still committed to finish all the way to a committee
draft before taking leave.
TM: The NDRs have to be revised to reflect MartyB's proposed
change before we can generate schemas. If his testing [see
last week's Atlantic minutes] isn't done in time or doesn't
work out, we'll have to default to no change for this round
of schema generation. [See action item under the next
heading.]
Subcommittee reports: PSC and TSC
TM: The PSC and TSC are aiming to freeze semantics 12/9 and
then proceed to merging the two sets of models. Delivery of
the merged set is hoped for 12/16, at which point we can
begin generating schemas for the review.
JB: We can't do that till the NDR document has been revised.
ACTION: JB to check with NDR editors regarding NDR document
revision.
TM: If all goes well, we could have all the materials for a
review package the week of 19 December, before the break.
JB: At which time we can put those out to our stakeholders
for a sanity check.
TM: And then put the package together the week of 2 January.
JB: Which would still allow us to turn our attention to the
Support Package at the meeting in Manhattan.
Team report: Digital Signatures
TM: Our proposed method of dealing with digsigs is to adopt
the proposal for Document Reference.
Review of Atlantic call
No comments.
Schedule review
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/200511/msg00062.html
See under PSC/TSC above.
ACTION ITEM REVIEW
ACTION: SG to send mail to MHB and JosteinF asking for
assistance with subsetting Catalogue for SBS 2.0.
Done; no response.
ACTION: AS to review the SBS to see whether the methodology is
applicable to USDOT subsetting.
Already taken care of.
ACTION: JB to continue looking for XForms support.
JB: It appears that BR will be taking this on.
ACTION: TM to post the Document Reference proposal to the list.
TM: Have posted this, need comments by 9 December.
ACTION: SG and SW to create a UBL UDT spreadsheet that
describes everything in the ATG2 UDT schema, ignoring what UBL
currently has for UDT and QDT, and then create the UBL QDT
using the same structure.
Still pending.
ACTION: SG and SW to manually update the CC parameter schema.
"SG: Atlantic call decided not to import the module.
SW: We need to see this reflected in the NDRs."
From which it appears that this should be shifted to the
Atlantic agenda.
ACTION: JB to include this point in his check with the NDR
editors.
OTHER BUSINESS
AGREED that we will hold the Pacific TC call 12/13 and 12/20 as
regularly scheduled, skip 12/27, and resume as usual 1/3.
Jon Bosak
Chair, OASIS UBL TC
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