Re: [xml-dev] Gothic definitions (was Re: [xml-dev] Re: Markup, an abstraction)
Truthfully, it's the mix of "gourmet bathing" with "Markup, an abstraction" that makes wading through all of this all worthwhile....
Peter Hunsberger
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Simon St.Laurent <[email protected]> wrote:
On 8/29/13 10:48 AM, Peter Hunsberger wrote:
Well I believe those two time periods overlapped? Either way it seems
the existence of a renaissance Goth should be possible. However, trying
to reconcile that with the modern co-opting of the term Goth makes my
head hurt, so I won't insist on you adopting the moniker...
The word has too many meanings. There's a roughly continuous thread of attractive with/because of a dose of the repulsive, but it's hard to pin down.
A good place to start is:
<http://ukcatalogue.oup.com/product/9780199586790.do>
My usage fits in his Chapter 10, "The Gothic Dream", but I get a strong sense that Nick Groom (the author) has the least sympathy for that use. In Ruskin's use, there's a sharp contrast with the Renaissance and its idealization of classical models.
From a different (Japanese) cultural background, but with intriguing parallels, take a look at Wabi-Sabi for Artists, Designers, Poets, & Philosophers:
<http://www.leonardkoren.com/lkwa.html>
<http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/42190.Wabi_Sabi>
Yes, the author of that also ran _WET: The Magazine of Gourmet Bathing_, but there's still a lot there worth contemplating.
Sorry to mix "gourmet bathing" with "Markup, an abstraction".
Thanks,
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Simon St.Laurent
http://simonstl.com/