Re: [xacml] Cross references?

From
Erik Rissanen <>
Date
2014-08-04T09:41:32+00:00
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Re: [xacml] Cross references?
Hi Chet,

    

    The issue I have is that some of the profiles cross reference each
    other in a circular manner, so it's hard for me to make the right
    references before it gets handed over to you.

    

    In particular, what happens when we go to OASIS standard with
    circular cross references? The Multiple Decision profile references
    the Hierarchical profile because some of the schemes in the Multiple
    Decision profile are based on hierarchies. The Hieararchical profile
    in turn references the multiple profile because it says that
    hierarchies are useful for some kinds of multiple requests, and to
    say that it is assumed that any multiple decision process has
    already been done, which the individual hierarchical decision is
    processed.

    

    It wasn't a problem previously because we would go to OS with a
    bundle of profiles together, so they would be OS at the same time.
    However, if I understand it right, now each document has its own
    track, so that raises the question of in which order the cross
    references get updated and also what happens if you edit it assuming
    that they both make OS, but then one of them doesn't.

    

    Can we handle these kind of references, or should I edit out the
    reference to multiple from the hierarchical, since it's not strictly
    needed for the technical content to still work?

    

    Best regards,

    Erik

    

    

    

    
On 2014-08-01 23:49, Chet Ensign wrote:

    

    
      
Hi Erik, 
        

        

        
One way to avoid this is to use the Latest version links
          when you update a profile. For example, to cite the Export
          Compliance Profile, you could use this format: 

        

        

        
[xacml-ec-us-v1.0]    XACML 3.0 Export Compliance US
          (EC-US) Profile Version 1.0. Latest version: http://docs.oasis-open.org/xacml/3.0/ec-us/v1.0/xacml-3.0-ec-us-v1.0.html 

        

        

        
That way, your references will always go to the most recent
          approved version of the document. 

        

        

        

        

        
Alternately, you can ask TC Admin to update OASIS citations
          during publishing with a designated cross-reference motion as
          part of your approval. To do that, when the document is
          approved for CS (e.g.) include language like this: 

        

        

        

          
"I move to approve the Chair requesting that TC
            Administration hold a Special Majority Vote to approve
            <Committee Specification Draft title and version
            number> contained in <URL to Committee Specification
            Draft> as a Committee Specification, ******-> and to
            approve the Chair requesting that TC Administration update
            the following Designated Cross-References during publication
            of the Committee Specification: 

          

          

          
- Current reference to be updated: <text of OASIS work
            product cross-reference to be updated?  Expected approval
            status and date: <expected approval stage>,
            <expected month/year of approval> 

          

          

          
- <repeat references as needed> "

          

          

          
With that sort of explicit instruction in the motion,
            I'll update the cross-references as part of the publication.
            It is the only time that I'll go in and change what the TC
            wrote - I stay out of TC content in general. 

          

          

          
Does this answer the question or are you looking at
            something different? 

          

          

          
Best, 

          

          

          
/chet 

          
 

          

          

        

      

      

        

        

        
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Erik
          Rissanen <>
          wrote:

          
            Hi,

            

            I noticed that some of the CS profiles have cross references
            to old versions of other profiles. Does someone know what
            the process is for updating them nowadays? I remember in the
            past we did votes on the topic.

            

            Ideally, I would like to make the updates only as they
            becomes published as OASIS standard since some of the
            profiles refer to each other, so there would be a chicken
            and egg type of problem if we had to make the changes as
            part of working draft editing.

            

            Best regards,

            Erik

            

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