RE: [xacml] Groups - XACML v3.0 Related and Nested Entities Profile Version 1.0 uploaded

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RE: [xacml] Groups - XACML v3.0 Related and Nested Entities Profile Version 1.0 uploaded
Thanks Steven for the well-written document.

 

I had some minor comments and some issues to discuss:

 

S2.1P4:
"Evaluation of the _expression_ MAY terminate at the first value from the domain for which the iterant _expression_ evaluates to “true”."

I think the meaning of "first" here is ambiguous and might be misleading as according
 to the spec, bags are unordered. I suggest either editing this to remove the word “first” or adding a sentence to emphasize that the implementation must not assume any particular order for processing of bags, and first means the first entity encountered regardless
 of the order of processing.

 

S2.1P4 and S2.2:  I suggest that, since there is no formal definition of these quantifiers,
 we explicitly clarify the value of ForAny and ForAll for an empty Domain.

 

There are also two issues for discussion:

 

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As someone said before on the list, in case of large data sets, there should
 be a mechanism to notify the PEP or PAP to include in the request only part of the related entities that are consequential in the PDP’s decision. For example, if the policy is to allow access “if the resource owner has a friend who is over 18”, this will require
 including all of the resource owner’s friends in the request. Finding some way to communicate what is sufficient to be included in the request is at least worth mentioning as an implementation issue.

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There should be some sort of discussion about the completeness of the set
 of operators defined in the profile. Right now, it appears that the supported operators are similar to those of description logic, but can/should we support more operators? For example, operators for “reflexive transitive closure” (e.g. friend-of-friend-of-friend-…),
 “cardinality” (number of related entities that satisfy a predicate), or inverse relations?

 

Regards,

Mohammad Jafari, Ph.D.

Security Architect, Edmond Scientific Company

 

 

 

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Submitter's message

This is the initial draft for the Related and Nested Entities Profile - my response to the "Attributes of Relations" email thread. I changed from "Embedded" to "Nested" in the title because it better suggests the idea that entities can be embedded in other
 entities to any depth. A nested entity is what I have previously called a compound attribute. As well as the ForAny and ForAll expressions that I have discussed on the mailing list I have defined a Select _expression_ as a convenience to policy writers who like
 to think in SQL terms. The examples go beyond simply addressing the "Attributes of Relations" concerns.

-- Dr. Steven Legg 

Document Name:

XACML v3.0 Related and Nested Entities Profile Version 1.0

Description

It is not unusual for access control policy to be dependent on attributes

that are not naturally properties of the access subject or resource, but

rather are properties of entities that are related to the access subject or

resource. This profile defines the means to reference such attributes from

within XACML policies for processing by a policy decision point. 

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Submitter: Dr. Steven Legg

Group: OASIS eXtensible Access Control Markup Language (XACML) TC

Folder: Specifications and Working Drafts

Date submitted: 2013-10-21 23:17:29