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AW: [xacml] support of <PolicySet> elements under PPS elements?

From
"Kan Ierrmann"
Date
2011-04-28T13:56:35+00:00
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2ECC48A03FA64A0E8D7BA806900C241A@lapschlichter55
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AW: [xacml] support of <PolicySet> elements under PPS elements?
Hi Erik,

the NIST model doesn’t
specify how to define the privileges associated with roles. Hence independent of
the requirements that might drive someone to build a Policytree based on nested
PS, I don’t see a reason why PS elements under PPS should be forbidden.

Nevertheless a scenario
for PS under PPS elements could be:

When using XACML to
define the privileges it might be very convenient to provide a certain
PolicySet structure below the PPS. One could e.g. define <PolicySet>
elements under a PPS that test for specific resource types (e.g. services). Below
these service specific <PolicySet> elements you could than structure your
policy by the action type (e.g. different <PolicySet> elements for each specific
service type). Having such a predefined structure and allowing the
junior-policy administrators only to define <policy> and <rule>
elements below these predefined <PolicySet> elements will ensure that
they do not define rights out of their scope.

 

Best Regards

Jan

 

 

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Jan Herrmann

Dipl.-Inform.,
Dipl.-Geogr.

Scientific
Assistant

Chair for Applied
Informatics / Cooperative Systems

Technische Universität
München

Boltzmannstr. 3

85748 Garching

Germany

T: +49 89 289 18692

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Von: Erik Rissanen [mailto:] 

Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. April
2011 14:37

An: 

Betreff: Re: [xacml] support of
<PolicySet> elements under PPS elements?

 

Hi Jan,

The RBAC profile has a very specific goal, namely to implement the NIST model
of RBAC. That goal is accomplished as it is, so there is no need to allow a
policy set elements. Why would you need it?

Best regards,

Erik

On 2011-04-25 10:19, Jan Herrmann wrote: 

Hi there,

the XACML v3.0 RBAC profile states:

 

“...Permission
<PolicySet>
or PPS: a <PolicySet> that contains the actual
permissions 

141
associated with a given role. It contains <Policy> elements and <Rules> that
describe the 

142
resources and actions that subjects are permitted to access, along with any
further conditions on 

143 that
access, such as time of day. ...”

 

From my point of view this PPS
definition is unnecessary limiting the structure below PPS. I would propose to
support <PolicySet> elements under PPS elements, unless there are good
reasons why this should be prohibited.

 

Best regards

Jan

 

 

--

Jan Herrmann

Dipl.-Inform.,
Dipl.-Geogr.

Scientific
Assistant

Chair for
Applied Informatics / Cooperative Systems

Technische Universität München

Boltzmannstr. 3

85748 Garching

Germany

T: +49 89 289 18692

F: +49 89 289 18657

W: www11.in.tum.de
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