Minutes for 19 November 2009 TC Meeting

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Minutes for 19 November 2009 TC Meeting
Time: 10:00 am ET
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Minutes for 19 November 2009 TC Meeting:

10:00 - 10:05 Roll Call (partial may have missed couple)

duane
jan
seth
erik
paul
dilli
rich
bill
ibm covering for vernon

 have quorum

Approve Minutes of 12 November 2009 TC Meeting
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200911/msg00013.html

 approved no objection

10:05 - 10:10 Administrivia

Interoperability Demonstration Opportunity for OASIS Security-related TCs at RSA 2010
  (see email copied after end of agenda below:)

RSA 2010, see end of agenda for details

F2F Logistics: layout agenda
Redwood City, Oracle
  Tue Dec  8 (8AM-5PM)
  Wed Dec  9 (8AM-5PM)
  Thu Dec 10 (8AM-5PM)
  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200911/msg00024.html

 wk after tg will have room #s, etc.
 suggestions on logistics

F2F ref again: hotels etc:
  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200911/msg00009.html

F2F Observers invitation discussion:
  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200911/msg00016.html

need to follow any oasis policies, etc.

Core spec updated and brief description of status from Erik:
  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200911/msg00020.html
  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200911/msg00021.html

Erik: has put all issues in from core

  General F2F:

Bill: will set up wiki page to consolidate issues, topic for mtg

Erik: make chgs in evening to keep up w day; goal is cd2

Bill: even if not quorum, put items in vote at thu call for
	full consideration;

Paul: teleconf for mtg sessions:

Rich: we will try to utilize oracle web conf capability

Erik: would like proposals on all issues for f2f

Bill: one more voice call dec 3: we should settle agenda at
	that time; 80-90% assurance on agenda topics

10:10 - 11:00 Issues

 Issue list reference (updated from agenda, to the following msg, doc):
  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200911/msg00021.html
  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200911/xls00003.xls

 Proposal from Erik to restrict policies to element, attr, text nodes:
  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200911/msg00017.html

Jan: processing instructions, comments not included

Erik: it is attr selector, not xpath matching

Paul: seem unnecessary to exclude

Erik: may refer to resource content; xml resource one would
	access based on xml comments possibly; part of resource,
	not part of policy; processing instructions may use these
	for appl-specific info

	issue will be closed (not in spec update, so no action)

 Possible issue w Inconsistency of Obligation Enforcement: Erik, Bill:
  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200911/msg00019.html

Bill agrees w proposal; wording refers to pep constrained to
	follow bias of pdp on rcving obl it does not understand.

	change approved

 Proposed schema change for policies and discussion from
  David Chadwick and response from Erik:

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200911/msg00023.html

Erik: David proposed req ctx schema for ext pts xml any, where
	can put proprietary policy lang things; doesn't make sense
	to std on any policies in fmt; suggest using saml/xacml
	mechanism

Rich: sees it as potentially disruptive, effectively allowing
	elements as children of PolicySet

Bill: proprietary elements don't make sense; need further info
	to be considered;

	defer topic until more info from David addressing concerns
	 in email and minutes

 Proposal for issue 19 from Jan:
  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200911/msg00025.html

Erik: should be individual resource-id as std case;

Paul: this should be a new issue, will send email

	defer until after refactoring

 Proposal for issue 4 from Jan:
  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200911/msg00026.html

Jan: issue is ordering of parameters make things too restrictive,
	esp when using xacml extensibility

Jan: any function; assign to each element in bag

Erik: need another week to process info

Bill: possibly an F2F topic

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