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Subject: [xacml] XACML January 10, 2002 Minutes




From: Ken Yagen <>
To: "XACML (E-mail)" <>
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 08:38:40 -0800






Title: XACML Conference Call Minutes








XACML Conference Call

Date:  Thursday, January
10, 2002 

Time: 10:00 AM EST 

Tel: 512-225-3050 Access Code: 65998 

Minutes of Meeting

 

Summary

The policy model subcommittee reported that they had been focusing on
collecting issues and opinions on those issues at the last few meetings. The conference
call then focused on discussing the Issues list and which items should be
discussed at the upcoming Face to Face. We got about halfway through it and had
picked the following: PM-1-01, PM-1-02, PM-2-01, PM-3-01, PM-3-02, PM-4-01,
PM-5-01. It was asked that members review the rest of the list and indicate to
the mailing list any others they felt should be discussed. Turnout for the face
to face appears to be strong. The last topic discussed was ContentGuard’s
intellectual property with XrML and whether that impacts XACML. Oasis has a
specific documented IPR policy regarding this and as Oasis members, it is up to
ContentGuard to disclose the necessary information to OASIS.

 

Action Items


 James McLean
     to take over Security and Privacy Conditions responsibility
 Send
     comments, opinions, solutions to Ken (post to list) on the issues in the
     issues document


3.      PM
SC will decide in Monday’s call if will have a call on the 21st or
not.


 Tim to send
     out a new draft of his document by end of day 1/10.
 Send comments
     to Tim on document or glossary items for next revision [Hal and Pierangela
     plus anyone else]
 Decided to
     focus on PM-1-01, PM-1-02, PM-2-01, PM-3-01, PM-3-02, PM-4-01, PM-5-01 at
     Face to Face. Only got to PM-5-01 on call and any other issues beyond that
     in document that someone would like to discussed at F2F should be
     requested by posting to the list.
 Champion of
     issues raised for discussion at F2F will lead discussion around the issue
     and do a five minute presentation to describe the issue to everyone.
 Carlisle will
     confirm with Bill that we have A/V facilities at F2F
 Carlisle will
     confirm if we will have conference call availability at F2F


 

Votes


 Voted to
     accept the minutes of the 12/13/01 meeting


 

Raw Minutes (taken by Ken Yagen)

 

Proposed Agenda:

10:00-10:10 Roll Call and Agenda Review 

10:10-10:15 Vote to accept minutes of December 13 meeting 

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200112/msg00039.html


10:15-10:25 Review of Action Items (see 12/13 minutes) 

10:25-10:35 Report of Policy Model Sub-Committee 

10:35-10:45 Discussion of Overall Status 

(in particular, open/closed items on current issues list) 

10:45-10:50 Discussion of Intellectual Property considerations 

10:50-11:00 Discussion of agenda and process for face-to-face meeting 

 

 

10:09 Roll Call

Voting Members

James MacLean, Affinitex

Simon Godik, Crosslogix

Ken Yagen, Crosslogix

Hal Lockhart, Entegrity

Carlisle Adams, Entrust

Alex Berson, Entrust

Tim Moses, Entrust

Don Flinn, Hitachi

Jason Rouault, HP

Suresh Damodaran, Sterling Commerce

Pierangela Samarati, University of Milan

 

Prospective Members

Sekhar Vajjhala, Sun Microsystems

Anne Anderson, Sun Microsystems

 

10:12 Voted to approve minutes from last meeting

 

10:13

Membership Issues

Ken still cannot seem to contact Joe via email. Will send email to
Jason to pass to Joe regarding membership and his participation

Anne, Sekhar, and Ernesto will become active voting members following
this call

 

10:16 Action Item review

All action items from last meeting were addressed

Security and Privacy – James McLean has volunteered to take over
tracking of these issues. Hal described it as a list of ways if spec is used
incorrectly might not meet expectations, not really an issues list.

 

10:23 Policy Model SC Report

Pierangela - Collected list of issues with pros and cons of different
solutions and who was in favor of each and sent them out. SC reviewed them and
edited list. Review issues before F2F and send opinions, comments, solutions to
Ken to include in document. 

 

PM SC will decide in
Monday’s call if will have a call on the 21st or not.

 

Tim – currently not aware
of requested modifications to glossary. Please let tim know. Planned to send
out new draft of spec by end of day today

* Send comments to Tim on
glossary and will be included in next version 

Hal has some comments

Some comments in the conference call. Pierangela should send those to
Tim

Carlisle – last day or two, discussion of the use of the term
post-condition

* New draft from Tim by end of day today

 

10:31 Discussion of overall status

Issues list and Tim’s clarification; anything closed

Carlisle having trouble but using version 3 of Acrobat

Helpful if could identify set of issues most critical that intend to
vote on and close completely at Face to Face

Tim – lets review issues and see if closable

Issues to focus on:

PM-1-01, PM-1-02, PM-2-01, PM-3-01, PM-3-02, PM-4-01, PM-5-01

Hal’s comment – possibly an issue about policy evaluation

 

Responsibility of champion at F2F – Lead discussion around the issue
and do a five minute presentation to describe the issue to everyone.

 

Do we know if we have A/V facilities? Carlisle will confirm with Bill.
Conference call availability may be an issue. Will it be available?

 

*Mailing list propose additional issues from rest of list that you feel
should be discussed to the mailing list.

 

11:00

IP

Ernesto raised issue about ContentGuard on list. Conceivable would
intersect with XACML.

Carlisle - If ContentGuard thinks work is infringing on their patents,
they have to let Oasis know, officially. OASIS has a specific IPR policy

Anne – Not in favor of any standard that requires specific licensing,
royalty payments, etc.

Ken – ContentGuard’s licensing policy for XrML does not ask for
royalties.

 

11:10 adjourn











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