I cannot make a Friday meeting since I will be on a wilderness Lake
Canoe camping.
Tom Rutt
Iwasa wrote:
>All,
>
>Since we are almost there, I would like to
>pursue possibility to meet 8/15 deadline
>for voting of the spec itself and its submission
>to OASIS. Would it be possible to realize that if:
> - We agree the resolution for all remaining issues
> at the telecon.(if any)
> - Editors publish the final version of the spec
> by the end of Thursday 8/12.
> - Additional telecon on Friday afternoon/evening 8/13.
> (This must have quorum.)
> The possible agenda is:
> - Check the last updates one by one.
> - Voting for the spec to be CD
> - Voting for OASIS submission
> ?
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Iwasa
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Doug Bunting" <>
>To: "wsrm" <>
>Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 8:14 AM
>Subject: [wsrm] Contribution suggestions just uploaded
>
>
>
>
>>The contribution I just uploaded[1,2,3] represents another improvement on
>>(but not the culmination of everything required to fix) the issues
>>discussed in my long-ago "Summary of WS-Reliability 1.01* issues discussed
>>over past week" email as well as the more recent "Detailed review of
>>Section 2-2.5, 5.2 and related definitions" and "about review of Section
>>2-2.5, 5.2". We have made a lot of progress on improvements in this area
>>but a bit more remains.
>>
>>Note that the two footnotes I inserted are not intended for the final
>>document but simply explain a few deletions. Those deletions also make
>>
>>
>the
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>>footnotes much less sensible when not viewing the differences.
>>
>>Primary areas of concern addressed in this contribution include:
>>- The BP 1.0 WSDL / SOAP / HTTP restrictions inappropriately were applied
>>to the allowed abstract operations used at the producer / consumer level.
>>It does not make sense to apply HTTP and SOAP restrictions to the way in
>>which a SOAP processor (our RMP component) is invoked. That represents an
>>unnecessary restriction reaching across 3 abstraction layers.
>>
>>- A few remaining clarity issues. For example, while WSDL might be
>>
>>
>written
>
>
>>down to describe the RMP use of the underlying protocol, we have not done
>>so. In spite of this lack, "WSDL" is occasionally used in ways that are
>>ambiguous.
>>
>>- A lack of support for the BP 1.0 restrictions presented in Section 6.
>>
>>
>We
>
>
>>need to generically describe various message exchanges as following the
>>patterns introduced in Section 2.3 ("SOAP one-way MEP" and "SOAP
>>request-response MEP") before the HTTP binding builds on those
>>
>>
>assumptions.
>
>
>> A few more assumptions and implications needed to be written down. This
>>was particularly troubling in light of the over-generality previously in
>>2.5.2 and 2.5.3.
>>
>>- Application of a SOAP One-way MEP restriction in 6.3 to the synchronous
>>Poll RM-Reply Pattern case. Fixed by moving the appropriate restrictions
>>into 6.3.1 and 6.3.2.
>>
>>The specification still does a poor job describing when the Respond
>>operation is or is not supported. Nor does it make clear the "meaning" of
>>a payload in a message containing only a Response header or that messages
>>with none of the Request, Response or PollRequest headers have no
>>significance under the WS-Reliability protocol. Both classes of change
>>would likely be more significant than I undertook. For example, it might
>>be reasonable to link the first Reliable Message "mentioned" in a Response
>>element with a payload in the same message but that would extend the rules
>>in 4.4 beyond the Response RM-Reply Pattern. This contribution attempts
>>
>>
>to
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>>illustrate the differences between the Producer / Consumer interface and
>>the SOAP message exchanges the RMPs implement but may not be "complete" in
>>this respect either.
>>
>>thanx,
>>doug
>>
>>[1]
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>http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrm/download.php/8586/WS-Reliability-2004-08-07-drb.sxw
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>>[2]
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>http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrm/download.php/8587/WS-Reliability-2004-08-07-drb.pdf
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>>[3]
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>http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrm/download.php/8588/WS-Reliability-2004-08-07-drb-diff.pdf
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