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Re: [wsbpel] Issue - 195 - Proposal to vote
That's much better than my awkward version. Alexandre Alves wrote: Danny, Ok, agreed. What about this then: It should be noted that the examples provided in this specification adopt the XML Schema at location http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/2004-08-24.xsd for the namespace URI http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/ [WSDL 1.1]. This XML Schema incorporates fixes for known errors, and is the XML Schema selected by the WS-I BP 1.1 Errata (October 25, 2005). Thanks for the feedback. From: Danny van der Rijn [mailto:] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 11:28 AM To: Alexandre Alves Cc: ; Francisco Curbera; Alex Yiu Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Issue - 195 - Proposal to vote If we included the clarification, which I think we should, we should point out that http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/2004-08-24.xsd is NOT a NSURI, but a schema location. Something along the lines of It should be noted that the examples provided in this specification adopt the Schema whose namespace URI is http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/ and which can be found at location "http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/2004-08-24.xsd" for [WSDL 1.1], as it incorporates fixes for known errors and is the Schema selected by the WS-I BP 1.1 Errata (October 25, 2005). Alexandre Alves wrote: Hi, Resending updated proposal. Problem Description: Incompatible WSDL schema versions and BPEL examples. Proposal: As kindly pointed out by TC, WS-I has kept the same WSDL URI and just referenced a different WSDL schema which fixes the extensibility problem we were facing. So the BPEL examples in the spec are no longer invalid in regards to WS-I compliance. Hence, there is nothing to fix in the BPEL spec, aside from adding a possible clarification. I am including a clarification in this proposal, but I am open to not having a clarification at all and closing the issue with no change. ---- Change section 3: With respect to [WS-I Basic Profile] (Basic Profile 1.1) all BPEL implementations SHOULD be configurable such that they can participate in Basic Profile 1.1 compliant interactions. A BPEL implementation MAY allow the Basic Profile 1.1 configuration to be disabled, even for scenarios encompassed by the Basic Profile 1.1. At the time this specification was completed, the WSDL v2.0 work was ongoing and not ready for consideration for WS-BPEL v2.0. Future versions of WS-BPEL may provide support for WSDL v2.0. By: With respect to [WS-I Basic Profile] (Basic Profile 1.1) all BPEL implementations SHOULD be configurable such that they can participate in Basic Profile 1.1 compliant interactions. A BPEL implementation MAY allow the Basic Profile 1.1 configuration to be disabled, even for scenarios encompassed by the Basic Profile 1.1. At the time this specification was completed, the WSDL v2.0 work was ongoing and not ready for consideration for WS-BPEL v2.0. Future versions of WS-BPEL may provide support for WSDL v2.0. It should be noted that the examples provided in this specification adopt the Schema "http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/2004-08-24.xsd" for [WSDL 1.1], as it incorporates fixes for known errors and is the Schema selected by the WS-I BP 1.1 Errata (October 25, 2005). ---- Rgds -----Original Message----- From: Alexandre Alves [mailto:] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 1:23 PM To: Cc: Danny van der Rijn; Francisco Curbera Subject: [wsbpel] Issue - 195 - Proposal to vote Hi, Indeed WS-I BP 1.1 errata (http://www.ws-i.org/Profiles/BasicProfile-1.1-errata.html), err07, references updated XSDs that fixes the problem. Problem Description: Incompatible WSDL schema versions and BPEL examples. Proposal: Replace all WSDL URIs in specification to reference to http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/2004-08-24.xsd, thus conforming to WS-I BP 1.1 (latest errata). Specifically, change: - At section 2. Notational Conventions, replace * wsdl - "http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/" For * wsdl - "http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/2004-08-24.xsd" Add the following paragraph to the end of the section: 'Particularly, the Schema "http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/2004-08-24.xsd" is being adopted for [WSDL 1.1], as it incorporates fixes for known errors and is the Schema selected by WS-I BP 1.1 Errata (October 25, 2005).' - At section 6.4 Document Linking, replace '...and to "http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/"; when importing WSDL 1.1 documents...' For '...and to "http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/2004-08-24.xsd"; when importing WSDL 1.1 documents...' - Change all WSDL document examples: Replace default namespace of definitions to xmlns="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/2004-08-24.xsd" -----Original Message----- From: Yaron Goland Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 11:04 AM To: Francisco Curbera Cc: Danny van der Rijn; Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Issue 195: Incompatible WSDL schema versions and BPEL examples The only problem is that 'fixing' our examples means that our examples won't work with the Schema specified in the WSDL 1.1 spec which is a required part of our charter. The good news is that WS-I is aware of this mess and is actively working on an errata for BP 1.1 that will fix it. The errata will require that extension points be placed at both the top and bottom of the WSDL file. This errata will therefore make our existing examples legal with both WSDL 1.1 and BP 1.1. For the moment I would recommend that we do nothing and see if WS-I is able to get out the errata before we finish up. Yaron Francisco Curbera wrote: > If the issue is that our examples do not comply with the BP 1.1 (including > its endorsed WSDL schema) then we need to fix them, since that was part of > the resolution of issue 72 (now updated I believe to support BP 1.1 instead > of BP 1.0). seems like a good task for the editors. > > Paco > > > > > > > Danny van > der > > > Rijn To: > > > < > cc: > > > > Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Issue 195: > Incompatible WSDL schema versions and BPEL examples > > > > > 03/15/2005 > 05:46 > > > > PM > > > > > > > > > +1 > > Tony Fletcher wrote: > This issue has been added to the wsbpel issue list with a status of > "received". The status will be changed to "open" if the TC accepts it > as identifying a bug in the spec or decides it should be accepted > specially. Otherwise it will be closed without further consideration > (but will be marked as "Revisitable") > > > The issues list is posted as a Technical Committee document to the > OASIS WSBPEL TC pages on a regular basis. The current edition, as a > TC document, is the most recent version of the document entitled in > the "Issues" folder of the WSBPEL TC document list - the next posting > as a TC document will include this issue. The list editor's working > copy, which will normally include an issue when it is announced, is > available at this constant URL. > > > Issue 195: Incompatible WSDL schema versions and BPEL examples > Status: received > Date added: 4 Mar 2005 > Categories: Syntax and validation > Date submitted: 04 March 2004 > Submitter: Yaron Y. Goland > Description: For details on this issue please refer to > http://www.goland.org/Tech/wsdl11mess.htm. The good news is that > there is an errata coming out for WS-I BP 1.1 and apparently there is > some possibility that this gratuitous incompatibility will be fixed. > Submitter's proposal: For now we just track this issue and see if > WS-I manages to fix it before we finish up. 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