Issue 82.2 - clarifying the description

A while ago, it was noted on one of
the calls that the description for issue 82.2,  Abstract
base as a profile, wasn't actually aligned with the previous discussion
that occurred when it was opened as part of resolving 82.  I did some
follow up with the folks who were most active on the resolution of 82 (Monica,
Alex, Nick, Peter, Rania, Ron, and Charleton) to make sure they had similar
views on what had been decided and how it should be represented on the
issues list.  As a result, thanks to Monica, we now have a write up
of the history and a proposal to revise the description on the issues list.
 If there are no objections, we'd like to proceed with this after
the meeting this week.  

Thanks. 

Regards, Diane

IBM  Emerging Internet Software Standards



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Monica J Martin <>

07/29/2005 06:14 PM

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Jordan/Evdemon 7/29/2005:
Clarifying 82.2 and Update to BPEL Issues List

As requested by Diane. I'd like to take action on
this as soon as 

possible and post the description to the TC list.

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Issue 82.2

Short historical summary: For Issue 82, we opened several subissues 

during the development of the concepts and proposed specification 

language. Originally, several questions were asked about the common base

for abstract processes, and other related profiles. I myself asked about

the common base and if a profile may be needed. Issue 82 concept and 

text also identified a process template as another profile use case. At

that time (and even before in the subgroup), a process template was seen

as one of the possible additional profiles that could be considered and

added. In Germany, earlier this year, we explicitly discussed a process

template as one of the abstract process profile use cases and specific

companies expressed interest. [1] The definition of a process template

profile is also consistent with the coordinated draft paper completed by

the previous BPEL subgroup where the Import Pattern recognized its 

utility and use.

When Issue 82.2, was created, there were several ideas under discussion

related to use cases, profiles, the common base, capabilty to express in

one schema, syntactic rules, etc. Issue 82.2 was opened to allow 

development of an additional profile (whether it was a process template

or common base) as ideas weren't yet formalized. In line with what 

process we have used in recent months, I recommend we make descriptive

clarification to Issue 82.2 to allow for the development of another 

profile whether it be for the common base, the process template or 

other. This descriptive change is consistent with how we handled a 

descriptive change to Issue 207. [2]

Current Issue 82 Title and Text

Title: Abstract base as a profile

Arising from resolution of 82 - see the text for 15.4 and "Related
items 

agreed on .. " at end of Rania Khalaf, 13 Apr 2005 

<http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsbpel/200504/msg00090.html>

15.4 [optional, left open as part of 82] Abstract Process Profile for …

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• Reworking of the other profile that has been asked for, but is still
awaiting vote.

    It is left open whether another profile will be defined in
the

    specification that is identical to the base. If so, it will
be given

    a URI to identify it and added. It is suggested that a separate,
new

    issue XX be opened for this. The dependency (by allowed closing

    order) of these three issues is: 82, XX, 158. 

Should a profile be defined that is is identical to the base. If so, it

will be given a URI to identify it.

Proposed Issue 82 Title and Text

Title: Another abstract usage profile

Arising from resolution of 82 - see the text for 15.4 and "Related
items 

agreed on .. " at end of Rania Khalaf, 13 Apr 2005 

<http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsbpel/200504/msg00090.html>

15.4 [optional, left open as part of 82] Abstract Process Profile for …

------------------------------------------------

• Reworking of the other profile that has been asked for, but is still
awaiting vote.

    This subissue can support the definition of another profile
such as

    one identical to the base or another usage such as a process

    template. Should more than one profile need to be developed,
a

    separate new subissue should be opened. Should a profile
be defined,

    it will be given a URI to identify it. The dependency (by
allowed

    closing order) of these three issues is: 82, XX, 158. 

[1] Germany minutes specify we would allow definition of another profile

and process template was discussed. See particularly comments from Paco

Curdera and Satish Thatte. 

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel/download.php/12073/Minutes%20Mar%208%20to%2010.htm#_Toc99816138

[2] Reference Issue 207 where the description was revised, issue owner:

Yaron Goland.