Good points. +1
Best Regards,
Kevin
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Message-----
From: Ugo Corda
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 11:18 AM
To: Satish Thatte;
Prasad Yendluri; Eckenfels. Bernd
Cc: BPEL OASIS
Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Issue 47 and
WS-I BP 1.0
Let
me clarify point 4 (sorry, I mislabeled it as 3) in relation to point 1.
I
think we should distinguish services that are not compliant with BP 1.0 from
those that are simply out of scope for BP 1.0.
If
I have a Web service that is not bound to SOAP/HTTP, then I would say it is out
of scope for BP 1.0, so it's OK for BPEL to interact with it.
My
point 4 is about services that are within the scope of BP 1.0 and still do not
comply with its requirements.
Ugo
-----Original Message-----
From: Satish Thatte
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 11:09 AM
To: Ugo Corda; Prasad Yendluri
Cc: BPEL OASIS
Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Issue 47 and
WS-I BP 1.0
I doubt that we can mandate
BPEL to be used with BP 1.0 compliant services only especially given the answer
to 1 assuming it is correct, and given that there are many services today that
are not compliant (e.g., RPC encoded ones).
From: Ugo Corda
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 10:55 AM
To: Satish Thatte; Prasad Yendluri
Cc: BPEL OASIS
Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Issue 47 and
WS-I BP 1.0
I
see a few separate issues/questions connected to the relationship of BP
1.0 and BPEL.
1- Would
BP 1.0 be restricting BPEL to the point that some of BPEL's functionality would
not be available?
I
cannot think of any such restriction off the top of my head.
2-
Would the fact that BP 1.0 only addresses the SOAP/HTTP binding imply that also
BPEL should be limited to that type of binding?
I
don't think that anybody would imply that.
3-
Should a BPEL process be offered as a Web service that is BP 1.0 compliant?
My
answer would be yes.
3-
Would it be fair to limit BPEL use to interacting with BP 1.0 compliant Web
services only?
My
personal answer would be yes. But I am a member of WS-I, and I understand other
people might have different answers.
Ugo
-----Original Message-----
From: Satish Thatte
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 10:39 AM
To: Prasad Yendluri
Cc: BPEL OASIS
Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Issue 47 and
WS-I BP 1.0
For the benefit of the
non-expert could post a salient example please? Specifically, a BPEL
usage pattern that would not work if BP 1.0 is followed but would work if any
WSDL 1.1 portType is allowed. In other words, is BP 1.0 a restriction on
the WSDL artifacts we use or potentially on BPEL itself?
From: Prasad Yendluri
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 10:11 AM
To: Satish Thatte
Cc: BPEL OASIS
Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Issue 47 and
WS-I BP 1.0
The sections 5.5 and 5.6 in the basic profile (http://www.ws-i.org/Profiles/Basic/2003-08/BasicProfile-1.0a.htm)
are devoted to binding aspects but, several major sections including section 4,
other sections of 5 address abstract aspects of WSDL, which is a pretty large
portion. All those are applicable BPEL IMO.
Prasad
Satish Thatte wrote:
Most of the BP 1.0
directives are binding related. BP also forbids outbound operations which
BPEL does not use. Can someone identify a directive in BP 1.0 that
actually affects BPEL?
Satish
