RE: [wsbpel] Issue 47 and WS-I BP 1.0

From
Ugo Corda <>
Date
2003-10-01T17:53:41+00:00
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RE: [wsbpel] Issue 47 and WS-I BP 1.0
I see a few separate 
issues/questions connected to the relationship of BP 1.0 and 
BPEL.

 

1- Would BP 1.0 
be restricting BPEL to the point that some of BPEL's functionality would not be 
available?

 

I cannot think of 
any such restriction off the top of my head.

 

2- Would the fact 
that BP 1.0 only addresses the SOAP/HTTP binding imply that also BPEL should be 
limited to that type of binding?

 

I don't think that 
anybody would imply that.

 

3- Should a BPEL 
process be offered as a Web service that is BP 1.0 
compliant?

 

My answer would be 
yes.

 

3- Would it be fair 
to limit BPEL use to interacting with BP 1.0 compliant Web services 
only?

 

My personal answer 
would be yes. But I am a member of WS-I, and I understand other people might 
have different answers.

 

 

Ugo

  
-----Original Message-----
From: Satish Thatte 
  [mailto:]
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 
  10:39 AM
To: Prasad Yendluri
Cc: BPEL 
  OASIS
Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Issue 47 and WS-I BP 
  1.0

  

  
For the benefit of 
  the non-expert could post a salient example please?  Specifically, a BPEL 
  usage pattern that would not work if BP 1.0 is followed but would work if any 
  WSDL 1.1 portType is allowed.  In other words, is BP 1.0 a restriction on 
  the WSDL artifacts we use or potentially on BPEL 
  itself?

  
 

  

  

  
  

  
From: Prasad 
  Yendluri [mailto:] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 
  10:11 AM
To: Satish 
  Thatte
Cc: 
  BPEL OASIS
Subject: Re: 
  [wsbpel] Issue 47 and WS-I BP 1.0

  
 

  
The sections 5.5 and 5.6 in the basic profile (http://www.ws-i.org/Profiles/Basic/2003-08/BasicProfile-1.0a.htm) 
  are devoted to binding aspects but, several major sections including section 
  4, other sections of 5 address abstract aspects of WSDL, which is a pretty 
  large portion. All those are applicable BPEL 
  IMO.

Prasad

Satish 
  Thatte wrote:

  
Most of the BP 1.0 directives are 
  binding related.  BP also forbids outbound operations which BPEL does not 
  use.  Can someone identify a directive in BP 1.0 that actually affects 
  BPEL?

  
 

  
Satish