Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 8 July 2009

MINUTES OF ATLANTIC UBL TC MEETING
WEDNESDAY 8 JULY 2009

ATTENDANCE

Jon Bosak (chair)

Tony Coates

Mike Grimley

Anne Hendry

STANDING ITEMS

Additions to the calendar:

http://ubl.xml.org/events

None.

Review of Pacific call minutes

No comments.

SCHEDULE REVIEW

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/200906/msg00026.html

See Pacific call minutes.

UBL 2.0 NDR IMPLEMENTATION GUIDE

MG: Have put up general headings and a page for "mixed

content"; BH has put up a page for UBL extensions.  There is

more here than just guidance -- there are also comments on the

existing NDRs.

JB: It looks like we'll be gathering a number of different

kinds of items:

- (Further) explanations/examples of the NDRs themselves; this

is material for the 2.1 NDR

- Explanations of what's meant in terms of automatic testing

(for implementers of QoD tools)

- Identification of the NDRs that apply only to UBL and should

not be implemented outside of UBL

- Identification of the NDRs that strictly speaking apply only

to UBL but can usefully be adapted to other projects (e.g.,

namespace rules)

- Identification of NDRs (e.g., prohibition of mixed content)

that do apply to other projects in similar problem domains

(DB, transactional) but not to projects in some other

problem domains (e.g., publishing).

- Where a rule can be generalized, a statement of the

principles that guided our development of it

AGREED that we will try to include all of these in our initial

canvass, but will keep them for now in loose subject categories

and wait until later to put them into the categories outlined

above (so, for example, we will keep all items related to UBL

extension on the same wiki page for now).

AH: We need to distinguish rules that are testable from those

that are not.  See definitions:

http://www.unisoft.com/glossary.html

Also a discussion of the concept of testability:

http://www.truthpizza.org/logic/testabil.htm

Note that there is an OASIS TC for test assertions:

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=tag

AGREED on the following rough order of work:

- Identify large subject groups and form links to wiki pages

- Under each subject heading, list the NDRs that should be

included by matching on one or more of the categories listed

above

- Decide how to proceed once we can see what needs to be

covered

For next week: discuss simple format guidelines (e.g., bold for

rule and roman for comment or vice versa).

2009 TC MEETING SCHEDULE

17-21 August 2009 in Montréal, colocated with Balisage the

previous week (http://www.balisage.net/).

Adding AH to the agenda in the Pacific minutes:

Planning to attend in person: JB, GKH, MC, MG; AH and ZR

possible.

Planning to attend by phone: TM, PLB, AS, BH, TonyC.

Agenda and work assignments (confirmed participants):

Complete UBL 2.0 NDR and prepare for publication (JB, MC,

MG; GKH on call for formatting help)

Complete UBL 2.0 Guidelines for Customization, including

comment review (JB, MC, MG, plus remote participants in

plenary)

Test schema generation (GKH, TonyC)

Review initial UBL 2.1 documentation (all)

Review data models (TM, AS, AH, PLB)

8-12 February 2010 in Copenhagen, colocated with a PEPPOL

conference 10-11 February.  TM to chair.

TC CONCALL SCHEDULE

Week of 13 Jul 2009: Regular schedule

Week of 20 Jul 2009: Regular schedule

Week of 27 Jul 2009: Regular schedule

Week of 03 Aug 2009: Regular schedule

MG: Will not be available for the next two calls.

Jon Bosak
Chair, OASIS UBL TC