Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 3|4 September 2007

MINUTES OF PACIFIC UBL TC MEETING
TUESDAY 4 SEPTEMBER 2007

ATTENDANCE

Jon Bosak (chair)

G. Ken Holman

Tim McGrath (vice chair)

Andy Schoka

STANDING ITEMS

Additions to the calendar:

http://ibiblio.org/bosak/ubl/calendar.htm

Open Standards conference in Sydney 15-16 November, TM will

attend: open-standards.com

Subcommittee report: PSC

JB/TM: Further progress of the PSC following the untimely

death of chair Mark Leitch will be discussed at the TCLocal

meeting in Stockholm.

Subcommittee report: TSC

AS: Will be meeting this week.

Review of Atlantic call

No comments.

Support page submissions

None this week.

UBL TC MEETING IN STOCKHOLM 24-28 SEPTEMBER 2007

A placeholder for updates to the draft agenda:

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/200708/msg00029.html

2008 TC WORK SCHEDULE

ACTION (8/14): JB to make a timeline that fits the work into

the OASIS TC process.

Pending.

2008 TC MEETING SCHEDULE

28 Jan - 1 Feb 2008 in Manhattan (Hotel Bedford recommended)

This date has now been confirmed.  Participants can (and

probably should) begin making travel plans.  Note that hotel

rates will be substantially higher closer to the meeting date.

March 2008 in Rome (together with UBL International Day)

Discussion still in progress among the organizers of the ID.

August 2008 in Montr�al

Two possibilities: the week of 4 August or the week of 11

August, depending on the scheduling of the Extreme Markup

Languages conference the week before.

January 2009 in Fremantle

Still tentative.

UPDATE PACKAGE

See

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/200708/msg00035.html

1. Regarding the items listed under "Suspected original and

localization spreadsheet DEN errors"

GKH: These are self-consistency errors; either the DEN is

not properly assembled from its components, or the

components are in error.

TM: Note that the DENs in the spreadsheets are not

normative.  The DENs in the schemas were generated by GEFEG

FX directly from the CCTS model.

ACTION: GKH to confirm programatically that the corrected

DENs listed in msg00035.html above match the DENs in the

schema files.

ACTION: TM to check the proposed corrections to the DEN

components.

2. Regarding items 1 and 2 under "Code list errors"

TM/AS: There are new standard versions of the Unit of

Measure and Transportation Status code lists on the UNECE

website.

Discussion: We will need to be clear on the difference

between validation and code list checking.  The code lists

themselves are not normative.  Users must be aware of the

benefits and risks of including code list metadata for each

code in document instances.  GKH has examples in his

tutorial that we can use in the Update Package to explain

this.

Future action: Someone (probably TM) will eventually need to

create new gc versions of the UnitOfMeasure,

TransportStatus, and Port code lists.  No deadline yet.

ACTION: JB to update the update list.

CL TRANSFER (TRACKING)

Impact on the Update Package of the CLR TC decision to take

over the CL Methodology work.

GKH: Primary impacts will be:

- New 1.0 genericode versions of all the code lists

- Inclusion of context value association files (postpone till

CLR TC comes out with methodology spec)

Assume GKH for these work items (no deadline yet).

PACIFIC ACTION ITEMS FROM MANHATTAN (TRACKING)

ACTION: PSC and TSC to provide feedback on UBL 2.0 SBS 2.0:

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/23873

Pending.

ACTION: PSC and TSC to summarize business rules that are (1)

wanted in UBL but not allowed by [i.e., capable of being

addressed by] the NDR (e.g., requirement to include one of

PartyName and PartyIdentifier but not both) and (2) data items

whose constraints are inherited from another standard (e.g.,

lengths of data items specified by UNTDED); the rules so

identified to become candidates for a list of schematron

assertions "recommended to be included" (final characterization

TBD).

Pending.

TC CONCALL SCHEDULE

As always, the UBL TC will not hold conference calls the weeks

before and after the next f2f.  Therefore, our concall schedule

for the next few weeks is as follows:

Week of 09/03: Pacific and Atlantic calls as usual

Week of 09/10: Pacific and Atlantic calls as usual

Week of 09/17: NO PHONE MEETINGS

Week of 09/24: NO PHONE MEETINGS (F2F IN STOCKHOLM)

Week of 10/01: NO PHONE MEETINGS

Week of 10/08: Pacific and Atlantic calls as usual

OTHER BUSINESS

JB: Possible speaking opportunity at December conference in

Bangalore.

ACTION: JB to put TM in contact with organizers.

Jon Bosak
Chair, OASIS UBL TC