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Subject: Re: [ubl] Venue for UBL meeting 3-7 November 2003
From: "Peter P. Yim" <>
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Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 23:16:19 -0700
Thanks, Jon. I prefer Menlo Park.
One additional problem with San Francisco is that, for those of us
(locals, especially) who plan to drive, parking is a hassle in the
City (and could be costly too!)
-ppy
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wrote Wed, 13 Aug 2003 22:24:58 -0700 (PDT):
> UBL members,
>
> Having agreed to hold our next UBL TC meeting 3-7 November 2003 in
> the San Francisco bay area, we must now decide the venue. We have
> two choices: Sun's campus in Menlo Park (where we have met several
> times before), or Sun's drop-in center in downtown San Francisco.
> Below I've listed what appear to me to be the salient
> considerations. Please reply to this message no later than COB
> Monday 18 August indicating your preference.
>
> Jon
>
> ==================================================================
>
> Menlo Park advantages:
>
> - Most of us know where it is by now
>
> - The meeting rooms are quite good
>
> - There is an excellent cafeteria on campus
>
> Menlo Park disadvantages:
>
> - The only available hotels are in Palo Alto, several miles away
>
> - Security is a hassle
>
> - The meeting rooms may not be located very close to each other
>
> San Francisco advantages:
>
> - The office is in downtown San Francisco, two blocks from the
> Moscone Center and the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art
>
> - There are many excellent hotels and restaurants within walking
> distance of the site
>
> - There is a BART (subway) station just three blocks away, which
> means that you can easily get to the meeting from many places
> in the bay area without driving
>
> - BART now runs directly to San Francisco airport, so if you got
> a hotel room near a BART station, you could in theory go the
> whole week without renting a car
>
> - The meeting rooms are quite near one another
>
> - Bob Glushko has offered to host a day in the wine country on
> the Sunday preceding or the Saturday following the meeting,
> using his home in St. Helena as the base; San Francisco is an
> hour closer to St. Helena than Menlo Park is (about 1.5 hours
> vs. 2.5 hours)
>
> San Francisco disadvantages:
>
> - The drop-in center is on the fourth floor of the building
>
> - The meeting rooms have conference phones and white boards, but
> the rooms themselves are not as nice; in particular, the
> acoustics are not as good (the rooms have concrete floors)
>
> - There are no dining facilities on site, though there is a small
> break area with coffee, hot water, tea, microwave, and
> refrigerator just a few feet from the meeting rooms; so you
> will have to go downstairs and walk a block or two for lunch
> (on the other hand, this also means that you're only a block or
> two from a bar after the meeting)
>
> - The venue is an hour away from Silicon Valley, so if you're
> trying to double up on business in the Valley, it's going to be
> less convenient (though with the recently completed
> BART-CalTrain link in Millbrae, it's a lot better than it used
> to be; you can now go directly to downtown Sunnyvale, Mountain
> View, Santa Clara, and San Jose by train)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
