UBL TC choreography

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Ion Aosak
Date
2001-09-17T18:17:00+00:00
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UBL TC choreography
Members of the UBL Group,

Note that this message is also being copied to the new list



for the information of a few people who have subscribed to the
OASIS UBL TC mailing list but are not subscribers to the
bl-discussion list.

As all subscribers to the bl-discussion list know from previous
messages, the OASIS TC submission agreed upon by the UBL Group has
been accepted in OASIS, and we're now proceeding toward the
formation of the OASIS UBL TC on 29 October 2001.  Making the
transition from the UBL Group to the UBL TC shouldn't be terribly
difficult, but it does involve a bit of procedural dovetailing.
The purpose of this message is to cover two basic aspects of that
transition: handing off the work of the UBL Group to the UBL TC,
and management of the corresponding mail lists.

1. Handoff from UBL Group to OASIS TC

To avoid confusion, it's important to be clear on the

distinction between the UBL Group and the UBL TC.

The UBL Group is an ad-hoc committee of companies and

individuals working toward a Universal Business Language.  It

has no status within the standards world, but it does exist as

a voluntary association following its own procedures, which

were specified by resolution of the Group at its meeting in

Palo Alto 26-27 April 2001.  So at this point, the UBL Group

has a generic legal status equivalent to that of a church group

or a fraternal organization or a labor union.

The UBL OASIS TC, on the other hand, will, when it is formally

constituted, be a technical committee of a standards body,

namely the Organization for the Advancement of Structured

Information Standards, which is a nonprofit corporation whose

process is specifically designed for the standardization of XML

tag languages.

The UBL Group already has some committees at work, as I will

describe elsewhere.  Those committees have been tasked to

report their findings to the UBL Group when it meets 29 October

at facilities to be donated by Sun in the San Francisco Bay

Area.

The UBL OASIS TC does not yet exist.  As mandated by the OASIS

TC process, the UBL TC will come into being when it holds its

first meeting, which is also scheduled for 29 October at

facilities to be donated by Sun in the San Francisco Bay Area.

I propose the following schedule for 29 October:

10h00 to 12h00: UBL Group meeting

- Report of the committees formed in Montreal (August 2001)

- Adjournment until the call of the chair (if all goes as

intended, this call will never actually occur and the UBL

Group will, in effect, cease to exist)

14h00 to 16h00: UBL TC first meeting

- Acceptance of input

- UBL Group committee reports

- xCBL

- XEDI and VCML

- other contributions

- Formation of working committees

- Liaisons

- Other business

The schedule for the rest of the meeting week has yet to be

determined.  Under ordinary circumstances, I would expect

something resembling the usual committee meetings on Tuesday

through Thursday followed by a plenary to wrap up on Friday

morning, but current events may require us to rethink this.

The issues surrounding meeting logistics will be addressed in

other messages, so please save your comments on this subject

until we get to it.  Note that the reports to be received by

the UBL Group from the committees created in Montreal when it

meets the morning of 29 October will be nonbinding

contributions to the work of the UBL TC when it meets that same

afternoon.

2. List management

The OASIS TC process mandates that when a TC is formed, two

lists are created by OASIS for transactions related to that TC:

a list for members of the TC and a list called the comment list

for use by the rest of the world.  The idea is to incorporate

as wide a range of thoughts and inputs as can be acquired while

at the same time putting concrete decisions into the hands of a

smaller group of people who are completely devoted to the

effort and can be counted on to attend meetings and cast votes.

The big group uses the comment list; the decision-making body

uses the members' list.

I have been attempting to reflect this basic distinction in the

UBL Group by strictly distinguishing between voting members and

observers.  It's my intention to populate the UBL TC list

() with the voting members of the TC

(as determined at the first TC meeting 29 October, not as

determined by the existing structure of the UBL Group) and to

move everyone else on the UBL Group list, including observers

in the current UBL Group, into the TC comment list

().  We can discuss this

further at the meeting.

While the OASIS TC lists are accepting subscriptions now, they

cannot be used for the actual business of the TC until 29

October.  However, I will take advantage of the existence of

the TC list by occasionally copying basic organizational

messages like this one for the information of people who are

subscribed to the TC list but not to the bl-discussion list.

Jon Bosak
Chair, UBL Group
Designated Chair, UBL TC