[ubl-ndrsc] Minutes from today's meeting

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1.  Roll Call and Welcome from the chair (Lisa), 
assignment of co-chair to take minutes.

 

Eduardo Gutentag (leaving early) x:14
Mike 
Grimley
Lisa Seaburg
Eve Maler
Bill Burcham
Sue Probert
Gunther 
Stuhec

 

Regrets:  Matt Gertner, Mavis Cournane, Paul Thorpe (also next 
week)

 

2.  Acceptance of minutes from past meetings.

 

Need quorum to accept minutes from last 3 meetings. - Did not have quorum, 
so still outstanding.

 

3.  Adoption of agenda/schedule planning

 

 Next Release: - NDR Document - January 13, 
2003
   - CodeList, 2 documents, Code List Rules and Code List 
White Paper, prior to F2F 5 (9/25), 
   - CCT Handcrafted 
Schema (separate file, normative deliverable)
   - Codelist 
Adapter Schema, Handcrafted schema (adapters for 3rd party code 
lists)
   - BCC Schema module (not determined 
yet).
   - Context Methodology Paper (we have to see this 
paper first before we decide).

 

Bill:  Discussion of what we had before, the BCCs and the CCT, do we 
still need them?  Put together XSD for the CCT's that gets generated.  

 

Gunther:  The LCSC is defining BIE's only.  Its not to clear how 
we can differentiate between the BBIEs and BCCs.  New rule in Perl script, 
for every kind of BBIE generate a BCC automatically.  If one BBIE is 
similar do not generate a new one.  There is more testing to be done before 
we have any answers.

 

We need to come up rules, but these might best come out of 
experimenting.  The rule making for Document Assembly needs to come with 
this.  The LCSC has started to work on this, and has divided their group 
into smaller groups to have some of them work on this.  

 

Has LCSC committed to use an automated assembly process?

 

Sue:  Document assembly is handcrafted into the spreadsheet, but 
rendering XSD by Perl script.

 

Bill:  There is not need for us to legislate assembly rules until this 
is worked out and LCSC already has an idea of how they want to do this.

 

Gunther:  I think it is good for this to happen there, it is a data 
modeling issue and we have good people 

 

Late January, early February, check what LCSC has done and talk it through, 
come through at this point with assembly rules.

 

Lisa: As Liaise between NDR and LCSC I guess I see I should try to connect 
the Document Assembly work being done in LCSC with the NDR document, make sure 
this will match up to make one deliverable.

 

4.  Review of Action Items and Status:

 

Mavis Cournane and Lisa Seaburg
     Rules in NDR - 
ongoing

 

Gunther Stuhec
1. Finalize paper to reflect decision. - DONE, with more 
discussion to come.
2. Develop section for NDR that identifies set of 
handcrafted xxx, develop handcrafted CCT identifiers, and develop rules as 
necessary for inclusion in the NDR document. - DONE, needs discussion.

 

Matt Gertner
    Context Methodology Paper, Matt sends 
regrets, has finished his comments on the NDR document, and will have the 
Context document draft by next week.

 

Arofan Gregory
    Write up for the Polymorphism - Not 
done.

 

Eve Maler - Eve will send out email on this.
   Eve's comments 
from email about Action Items:   "The Code List Rules document needs a 
revision to take into account (a) the new supplementary components for 
codes/identifiers in CCTS V1.85 , and (b) edits to fix syntax errors that were 
pointed out by the UN/ECE people.  When you guys called me on my cell phone 
two Fridays ago, I told Mark I could commit to generating a new, hopefully final 
version by the end of December, but I doubt I'll get to it this week.  I'll 
try.
 
   Regarding the code list white paper, there are a 
few things I could change on it, but it's really not too bad.  If you all 
could review it and send me comments, I can revise it by the end of December as 
well."
  
5.  QA Team Comments of the NDR document, these are 
all available at:

 

http://ubl.cim3.org/~lcsc/Kurt-ndr/

 

I have started to compile, but its a big job.  We will discuss the 
comments received so far.

 

Sections of the NDR Document:

 

1.2.  Terminology and Notation - Lisa, Check for official OASIS 
template?
2.    Choice of schema language - Mark
3.  
Relationship to ebXML Core Components - Mark
4.1.3   Embedded 
documentation - Arofan (QA and make sure it agrees with 
4.2.5)
4.2.4 Rules for Using Code Lists with XML Constructs - 
Mark
4.2.5 Rules for Embedding Documentation into XML Constructs - 
Arofan
4.3 Containership and element design - 
Arofan.
5 Modularity, Namespaces, and Versioning - Arofan, will review 
the rest of ModNamVer.
5.5 Rules for Versioning - Lisa, with input from 
Arofan.  

 

Gunther:
6 Facets - Gunther and 
Mavis
6.1 Introduction
6.2 Rules

 

7 Date and Time - Gunther
7.1 Introduction - 
27
7.1.1 Rules for specific points of date/time - 27
7.1.2 Rules 
for duration 27
7.1.3 Core Component Types and Representation 
Terms 27
7.1.4 Period 28
7.1.5 Frequency of recurrent 
period 

 

12 Technical Terminology - Lisa
Appendix A. UBL NDR Rules - 
Lisa

 

6.  Other Sub-working groups update:
 
Library Content SC - 
Nothing more than what was already discussed.
Context Methodology - 
None
Liaison SC - UNCEFACT proposal went out, waiting for next step.
Tools 
and Techniques - status is ongoing, waiting for comments for the handcrafted 
schema.

 

7. Other Business

 

UBL-NDR Work Space on Peter Yim's Server, this space is for our own use, if 
we have large files to move, its better than emailing them.  It would be 
confusing to use this and the OASIS portal, so lets be clear, the OASIS portal 
is the official. 
 

 

8. Next meeting topics

 

 No call next week, try to get email going.
 
 Gunther 
has idea for better structure for chapter on CCT.  Gunther will write out 
new sections for each CCT for better.

 

Upcoming Call Schedule:

 

 18 December - 
 8th January - preparation for 
delivery.
 

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