Hello all,
If I may, Iâd just like to voice my opinion about the proposal of using a list in the YAML key to shorten the definitions in this example:
data_types:
VirtualCpuWithStaticPinning:
derived_from: tosca.datatypes.nfv.VirtualCpu
properties:
[virtual_cpu_pinning, cpu_pinning_policy]:
constraints:
- equal: static
While this approach seems to simplify matters from the userâs perspective, it will create major headaches to the orchestrator implementors. Also, YAML also has support for anchors that does away with the issue of repetition, so the following will work in any existing orchestrator, according to existing standard, and will do the trick:
data_types:
 VirtualCpuWithStaticPinning:
ÂÂÂ derived_from: tosca.datatypes.nfv.VirtualCpu
ÂÂ Âproperties:
ÂÂÂÂÂ virtual_cpu_pinning: &static_constraints
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ constraints:
ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ - equal: static
ÂÂÂÂÂÂ cpu_pinning_policy: *static_constraints
Additionally, for this specific case, TOSCA also provides a dsl_definitions mechanism:
dsl_definitions:
 - &static_constraints
ÂÂÂ constraints:
ÂÂÂÂÂ - equal: static
data_types:
 VirtualCpuWithStaticPinning:
ÂÂÂ derived_from: tosca.datatypes.nfv.VirtualCpu
ÂÂÂ properties:
ÂÂÂÂÂ virtual_cpu_pinning: *static_constraints
ÂÂÂÂÂ cpu_pinning_policy: *static_constraints
Best regards,
Matej
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From: <> On Behalf Of Chris Lauwers
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 3:26 AM
To: Katzman, Anatoly <>; Calin Curescu <>; NOSHPITZ, CLAUDE <>; ; Arturo Martin De Nicolas <>; ; ; ; ; ; Steve Baillargeon <>; ; ; ; ; SHADMI, DAVID <>; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ;
Cc:
Subject: [tosca] RE: Enhancements to the TOSCA data filtering abilities
By the way, as I think about this more, it seems to me that there is no reason why node filters should use condition clauses (rather than constraint clauses). For example, if I wanted a node filter that says: âI want a Ubuntu host with 8G of memory or a CentOS host with 4G of memoryâ. I donât think I can express that using just constraint clauses (even when we add Boolean operators to constraints) since we need constraints that combine multiple properties. Using condition clauses in node filters would solve this problem.
Thanks,
Chris
From: Katzman, Anatoly <>
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 6:20 AM
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Subject: RE: Enhancements to the TOSCA data filtering abilities
Hi Calin,
Thank you for the feedback, really encouraging.
Regarding the new self-reflecting attributes â I think it is a good addition and that it deserves a separate proposal and a separate discussion thread 😊
On the sub-property targeting syntax, âmapâ vs âlistâ:
The map option crossed my mind when I was working on the proposal, but I have intentionally chosen the list, and this is why:
The list syntax is consistent with what we already have in functions get_input (4.4.1), get_property (4.4.2) and get_attribute (4.5.1)
The list syntax is much more extendable and more suits my future proposals that I have not yet disclosed. A spoiler: a list item could be extended from what we have now (just a sub-property name or index) to a more advanced selection _expression_ with terms like ANY, ALL, MATCH(pattern), etc.
I was also going to propose changes in the data type definition syntax to allow laconic refinement of deeply buried sub-properties:
data_types:
VirtualCpuWithStaticPinning:
derived_from: tosca.datatypes.nfv.VirtualCpu
properties:
[virtual_cpu_pinning, cpu_pinning_policy]:
constraints:
- equal: static
Well, we have a lot to discuss.
Looking forward to our future meetings,
Anatoly
From: Calin Curescu <>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 9:56 AM
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Subject: RE: Enhancements to the TOSCA data filtering abilities
Hi Anatoly,
I fully support your proposed changes.
I have a suggestion for the format of proposal #3 syntax. Instead of:
Node_templates:
function_01:
type: MyFunction
requirements:
- compute:
node_filter:
capabilities:
- tosca.capabilities.nfv.VirtualCompute:
properties:
[virtual_cpu, virtual_cpu_pinning, cpu_pinning_policy]:
- equal: static
I would propose:
Node_templates:
function_01:
type: MyFunction
requirements:
- compute:
node_filter:
capabilities:
- tosca.capabilities.nfv.VirtualCompute:
properties:
virtual_cpu:
virtual_cpu_pinning:
cpu_pinning_policy:
- equal: static
That would be the same hierarchy, but when (and only when) descending through datatypes we would have the option to omit the âproperties:â keyname in the hierarchy to make the structure more readable.
NOTE also that the same hierarchy as above could be used in the refinement proposal of Chris, when we want to refine a property deeply buried in another set of complex properties.
I would also propose to extend the self-reflecting attributes of TOSCA node and relationship template to contain:
âtosca_typeâ,
for both nodes and relationships
to be able to filter out (in a workflow step) this node if it is of a specific type
âtosca_requirement_nameâ
for relationships
to be able to filter out (in a workflow step) this relationship if it has been created to fulfill a requirement with a specific symbolic name (which is almost always the case)
âtosca_requirement_indexâ
for relationships
only pending to the outcome of discussions if a requirement occurrences should be assigned a specific index
BR,
/Calin
From: Chris Lauwers <>
Date: Monday, 3 September 2018 at 06:26
To: "KATZMAN, ANATOLY" <>, "NOSHPITZ, CLAUDE" <>, "" <>, Arturo Martin De Nicolas <>, Calin Curescu <>, "" <>, "" <>, "" <>, "" <>, "" <>, Steve Baillargeon <>, "" <>, "" <>, "" <>, "" <>, "SHADMI, DAVID" <>, "" <>, "" <>, "" <>, "" <>, "" <>, "" <>, "" <>, "" <>, "" <>, "" <>, "" <>
Cc: Chris Lauwers <>
Subject: RE: Agenda for this week's TOSCA Simple Profile meeting
We obviously need to discuss the specifics in detail, but in general I fully support these types of enhancements as proposed by Anatoly.
Chris
From: Katzman, Anatoly <>
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2018 10:31 AM
To: NOSHPITZ, CLAUDE <>; ; ; ; Chris Lauwers <>; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; SHADMI, DAVID <>; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ;
Subject: RE: Agenda for this week's TOSCA Simple Profile meeting
Claude, all,
In addition to these topics, I would also like to submit for discussion on the WG forum a set of enhancements to the existing TOSCA syntax for conditions and constraints. The attached document contains the details. The document is probably far from perfect, but I believe that even in its current form it makes a good basis for the further discussion.
Of course, it is up to the forum to decide on the priority of this new topic in our backlog.
Regards,
Anatoly
From: NOSHPITZ, CLAUDE
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2018 6:42 PM
To: Katzman, Anatoly <>; ; ; ; NOSHPITZ, CLAUDE <>; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; SHADMI, DAVID <>; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ;
Subject: Agenda for this week's TOSCA Simple Profile meeting
TOSCA Simple Profile for YAML
Discussion topics for 2018-08-28:
Thinhâs request to backport get-inputs enhancements from 1.3 to 1.2 for IFA/SOL alignment, or freeze the 1.3 definition for early adoption by ETSI workstreams
Finalize derived-type property semantics (from last week): this should be ok as discussed, letâs check.
Requirements and capabilities types: aligning ETSI-IFA requirements/assumptions with Simple Profile
If time allows, otherwise for future meetings:
Policy: events, triggers, and actions
OS Container use case/structure (would this lead to an âevolvingâ normative type for 1.3?)
Thanks.
--Claude
