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Paul Lipton (co-chair): Hi, all. Welcome to this meeting of the TOSCA TC!
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Dale Moberg 1 morphed into scribe  Paul Lipton (co-chair): P R O P O S E D
A G E N D A  * Welcome / Roll for those who cannot record their own attendance  * Co-chair appoints a scribe  * Review/approve draft proposed agenda * Review/approve draft minutes * Jan. 26: See  http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/tosca/download.php/45010/TOSCA%20Minutes%202012-01-26.docx  (thanks to Richard Probst for scribing)  * Issues/Proposals/Bugs queue (time permitting)  * TOSCA-3:  http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/TOSCA-3  (Grouping element for policies) * TOSCA-4:  http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/TOSCA-4  (Modification of the interfaces element of NodeTypes)  * TOSCA-5:  http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/TOSCA-5  (Support of implementationArtifacts within NodeTemplate) * TOSCA-6:  http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/TOSCA-6  (Mark all Normative Statements with RFC2119 terms and format) * General discussion (time permitting)  * REMINDER: While a general approach can be decided by motion, specific technical proposals need to be JIRA issues  * Next meeting * AOB  scribe: Meeting is quorate at 10:08  scribe: scribe: Dale Moberg  scribe: Motion: Agenda ok.  scribe: Seconded  scribe: Agenda accepted as proposed.  scribe: Motion: Accept Jan 26 minutes  scribe: Seconded by Marv  scribe: Discussion?  scribe: Accept minutes by unanimous consent  Stephen Tyler: WebEx - nothing in the LM  scribe: Tosca 3-6 issues, Frank to begin discussion.  scribe: Tosca 3-6 issues, Frank to begin discussion.  Paul Lipton (co-chair): Note: Dale Moberg is scribe  scribe: Proposal is to work on a new language element possibly called TopologyGroup  scribe: One usage of group is to serve as a referent for a Policy.  scribe: Could group templates be utilized? Frank points out complications.  scribe: Could policy be targeted by sets sharing a type, for example? Or by an enumeration (by IP address e.g.)  anonymous morphed into Michael Schuster (SAP)  scribe: Mike E points out that an open issue is in need of a detailed proposal.  scribe: Marv applauds initial informal discussion of the issue and approaches.  Mike Edwards1: There is a question of a procedure here perhaps - one way of handling issues is for them to be raised as "New" and then require formal assent of the TC to become "Open" - and no formal work should go on until they reach "Open" state.  The TC can alternatively choose to "Close with No Action" rather than move to "Open"  scribe: Procedural interlude concludes and issue 4 is introduced  scribe: Modify an existing Tosca element -- clean up by focus on interface with one or more operations  scribe: "operation" to be renamed TBD  scribe: special support for Rest based techniques involving e.g. query parameters  Mike Edwards1: So if I had a component that offered the same capability via different protocols, how would that be handled - eg same function via both REST and via Web Services ?  scribe: Derek to provide a reminder to Frank  scribe: Frank will provide a detailed proposal on TOSCA-4  Paul Lipton (co-chair) lowered your hand  scribe: TOSCA-5 is next.  scribe: Allows overrides of implementation specific artifacts (such as specific jar file) used  scribe: Paul polls the TC for interest in further elaboration of TOSCA-5 proposals.  scribe: TOSCA-6 is queued up.  scribe: Mike Edwards proposes some specifics for the specification conventions  scribe: 3 principles that can help accomplish test/conformance tasks for the TC's output  Mike Edwards1: I agree with the concept of a Primer, Efraim  Mike Edwards1: A spec needs to be specific about what implementations must do  scribe: scribe likes Mike's proposal  Efraim (CA): @Mike,could you provide a link to a standard doc that is using this convention?  Marv Waschke (CA): IETF RFCs use caps for MUST etc. but not line breaks or numbers, I believe  Paul Lipton (co-chair) lowered your hand  scribe: Mike points out that breaks are useful for multi-sentence requirements to nail down boundaries  Mike Edwards1: I'll get some links into an email to specs that use conventions of these kinds  scribe: Paul moves to adjourn, Simon seconds, and all agree