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Agenda for today's con-call
Sorry for the delay in getting the agenda out…

 

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Review/Accept
     minutes from 22-June con-call meeting.  Link to minutes as updated by
     Steve A:

 
  
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/security-services/200406/msg00091.html

 
 
Document review.  Scott’s
     status message:

 
  
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/security-services/200407/msg00017.html

 
 
Schedule review.  We
     previously stated that today’s con-call would start “sort of a
     pre-last-call deadline for final input.  Depending on how well things
     come together, we might possibly start our TC last call here, but we opted
     to allow another week before doing that.”  The plan is to vote
     next week to start the 2 week TC last call period on 13-July.  The
     remainder of the schedule is:

·        
July 6: All specification suite
documents must have incorporated all input from the list and F2F #5. Note that
this gives us 3 weeks since the F2F to complete all document changes and to
resolve issues and action items.  This now begins sort of a pre-last-call
deadline for final input.  Depending on how well things come together, we
might possibly start our TC last call here, but we opted to allow another week
before doing that. 

·        
July 13: VOTE to start 2-week
committee last call period (includes external public review). 

·        
July 20: Review any last call input
to date. 

·        
July 27: Cut-off date for TC last
call input. All outstanding issues have been dealt with according to the last
call process. The specs now become our "candidate” Committee Drafts
and the TC addresses any outstanding non-normative editorial issues

·        
August 3: VOTE to move spec’s
to “Committee Draft” status (requires YES votes from 2/3 of ALL
voting members). VOTE to move CD spec’s into 30-day Public Review for
OASIS standardization (majority vote). Edit doc’s for CD status. Notify
TC admin of the start of formal Public Review. 

·        
September 7 (first call following
30-day public review): Make sure all public review comments have been properly
dispatched. Final editorial changes must be complete. VOTE to re-approve
spec’s as final Committee Draft and VOTE to submit to OASIS for
standardization.  

·        
September 8-15: Complete all
submission paperwork. All submissions for an October voting period must be
complete by September 15. 

 
Action item review. [Apologies for the sorting order, but
     when sorting by open status, Kavi doesn’t use a secondary sort by AI
     number]

 

 

  
  
Report created 06
  July 2004 10:58am EDT 

  
 

 

  
  
 

  
 

 

  
  
#0164: Add doc text for profile, etc. submission process

  
 

 

  
  
Owner: Scott Cantor

  
 

 

  
  
Status: Open

  
 

 

  
  
Assigned: 22 Jun 2004

  
 

 

  
  
Due: ---

  
 

 

  
  
Comments:

  Rob Philpott 2004-06-22 16:31 GMT

  All documents will include text directing readers to the SSTC web site for
  information on the process for submitting new authn context classes, profile
  documents, etc.

  
 

 

  
  

  
  

  

  
 

 

  
  
#0175: Add Security Context to glossary

  
 

 

  
  
Owner: Jeff Hodges

  
 

 

  
  
Status: Open

  
 

 

  
  
Assigned: 23 Jun 2004

  
 

 

  
  
Due: ---

  
 

 

  
  
Comments:

  Rob Philpott 2004-06-23 20:12 GMT

  as discussed at F2F #5

  
 

 

  
  

  
  

  

  
 

 

  
  
#0173: Add XACML profile to profiles doc

  
 

 

  
  
Owner: Scott Cantor

  
 

 

  
  
Status: Open

  
 

 

  
  
Assigned: 23 Jun 2004

  
 

 

  
  
Due: ---

  
 

 

  
  
Comments:

  Rob Philpott 2004-06-23 20:06 GMT

  As discussed at F2F #5.

  
 

 

  
  

  
  

  

  
 

 

  
  
#0143: Check SAML schema for consistency

  
 

 

  
  
Owner: Eve Maler

  
 

 

  
  
Status: Open

  
 

 

  
  
Assigned: 29 Apr 2004

  
 

 

  
  
Due: ---

  
 

 

  
  
Comments:

  Prateek Mishra 2004-04-29 21:49 GMT

  *** Follow-up: Examine SAML schema for consistent use of XML attributes vs.
  elements

  
 

 

  
  

  
  

  

  
 

 

  
  
#0177: Clarify OneTimeUse description

  
 

 

  
  
Owner: Hal Lockhart

  
 

 

  
  
Status: Open

  
 

 

  
  
Assigned: 23 Jun 2004

  
 

 

  
  
Due: ---

  
 

 

  
  
Comments:

  Rob Philpott 2004-06-23 20:15 GMT

  As discussed at F2F #5:

  Hal will look at OneTimeUse text again and attempt to clarify: in progress.

  
 

 

  
  

  
  

  

  
 

 

  
  
#0157: Define Binding and Profile in Glossary

  
 

 

  
  
Owner: Jeff Hodges

  
 

 

  
  
Status: Open

  
 

 

  
  
Assigned: 30 Apr 2004

  
 

 

  
  
Due: ---

  
 

 

  
  
Comments:

  Prateek Mishra 2004-04-30 18:10 GMT

  o "atomic unit of interoperability" proposed

  
 

 

  
  

  
  

  

  
 

 

  
  
#0174: Document values for DCE attribute names

  
 

 

  
  
Owner: Scott Cantor

  
 

 

  
  
Status: Open

  
 

 

  
  
Assigned: 23 Jun 2004

  
 

 

  
  
Due: ---

  
 

 

  
  
Comments:

  Rob Philpott 2004-06-23 20:09 GMT

  document the well-known values for the DCE attribute

  
 

 

  
  

  
  

  

  
 

 

  
  
#0169: Draft formal response to IBM research report on SAML

  
 

 

  
  
Owner: John Linn

  
 

 

  
  
Status: Open

  
 

 

  
  
Assigned: 22 Jun 2004

  
 

 

  
  
Due: ---

  
 

 

  
  
Comments:

  Rob Philpott 2004-06-22 17:09 GMT

  John Linn and Prateek agreed to draft a formal SSTC document commenting on,
  acknowledging, and clarifying certain points in the IBM Research Report RZ
  3501 (# 99427) 06/30/03. The goal is to have this document approved as a
  Committee Draft.

  
 

 

  
  

  
  

  

  
 

 

  
  
#0144: Explain optional subject decision

  
 

 

  
  
Owner: Eve Maler

  
 

 

  
  
Status: Open

  
 

 

  
  
Assigned: 29 Apr 2004

  
 

 

  
  
Due: ---

  
 

 

  
  
Comments:

  Prateek Mishra 2004-04-29 21:51 GMT

  *** AI: Eve: Optional subject implemented in core spec prose. Schema shows
  that subject is optional. 

  

  o Eve: Has wanted to create a rationale for some of the decisions made on
  spec. Decision on subject less statements is a good example of what needs to
  be documented. Making an explicit design decision that is not really explicit
  on. By choosing to add prose to core spec we're making a stealth abstract
  profile (generic design decision) that applies to all explicit profiles. 

  

  o Scott: data model (design) decision to require subjects in all SAML
  statements.

  
 

 

  
  

  
  

  

  
 

 

  
  
#0166: Investigate use of Wiki from teh web site

  
 

 

  
  
Owner: Scott Cantor

  
 

 

  
  
Status: Open

  
 

 

  
  
Assigned: 22 Jun 2004

  
 

 

  
  
Due: ---

  
 

 

  
  
Comments:

  Rob Philpott 2004-06-22 16:40 GMT

  Scott will investigate the establishment of a wiki for SSTC use to be linked
  from the SSTC web site.

  
 

 

  
  

  
  

  

  
 

 

  
  
#0131: Migration document describing changes to subject in
  SAML 2.0

  
 

 

  
  
Owner: Jeff Hodges

  
 

 

  
  
Status: Open

  
 

 

  
  
Assigned: 13 Apr 2004

  
 

 

  
  
Due: ---

  
 

 

  
  
Comments:

  Prateek Mishra 2004-04-13 04:31 GMT

  Explain how treatment of subjects have changed in going from SAML 1.X

  to SAML 2.0. This might be an action for Scott?

  
 

 

  
  

  
  

  

  
 

 

  
  
#0170: Move Authn Context Declarations to XML
  Schema-centric approach

  
 

 

  
  
Owner: John Kemp

  
 

 

  
  
Status: Open

  
 

 

  
  
Assigned: 23 Jun 2004

  
 

 

  
  
Due: ---

  
 

 

  
  
Comments:

  Rob Philpott 2004-06-23 16:06 GMT

  JohnK and Scott to move Authn Context Declarations to XML Schema-centric
  approach.

  
 

 

  
  

  
  

  

  
 

 

  
  
#0163: Need process for submission of profiles/authn
  context classes, etc.

  
 

 

  
  
Owner: Rob Philpott

  
 

 

  
  
Status: Open

  
 

 

  
  
Assigned: 22 Jun 2004

  
 

 

  
  
Due: ---

  
 

 

  
  
Comments:

  Rob Philpott 2004-06-22 16:29 GMT

  On the web site, we need to state what the process is for submitting and
  dealing with additional authn context classes, new profile documents, etc.

  

  Rob Philpott 2004-06-23 16:03 GMT

  Note that this is different from AI 164 for SCott and John K to propose text
  within the spec documents that points to the web site.

  
 

 

  
  

  
  

  

  
 

 

  
  
#0171: Need profile designator for stmt/query?

  
 

 

  
  
Owner: Scott Cantor

  
 

 

  
  
Status: Open

  
 

 

  
  
Assigned: 23 Jun 2004

  
 

 

  
  
Due: ---

  
 

 

  
  
Comments:

  Rob Philpott 2004-06-23 20:02 GMT

  Discussed at f2f #5:

  - potentially allowing for endpoint metadata

  - issue was whether NULL profile was needed, etc

  
 

 

  
  

  
  

  

  
 

 

  
  
#0172: need text for syntax of attr values in LDAP/X.500
  profile

  
 

 

  
  
Owner: Bob Morgan

  
 

 

  
  
Status: Open

  
 

 

  
  
Assigned: 23 Jun 2004

  
 

 

  
  
Due: ---

  
 

 

  
  
Comments:

  Rob Philpott 2004-06-23 20:05 GMT

  Discussed at f2f#5:

  RLBob to review & propose text for handling syntax of attr values in
  LDAP/X.500 profile.

  
 

 

  
  

  
  

  

  
 

 

  
  
#0123: Obtain MIME type registration for HTTP lookup of
  SAML

  
 

 

  
  
Owner: Jeff Hodges

  
 

 

  
  
Status: Open

  
 

 

  
  
Assigned: 13 Feb 2004

  
 

 

  
  
Due: ---

  
 

 

  
  
Comments:

  Rob Philpott 2004-06-23 15:29 GMT

  Attached is the initial rev of an I-D seeking to register the MIME media type
  

  "application/saml+xml". Please review.

  

  I've pinged the I-D editor to request a filename for the doc, I'll submit it
  to 

  both the I-D editor and the SSTC doc repository once that's finalized (std 

  procedure for I-Ds).

  

  In concocting this draft, I've noted that MIME media type registrations
  aren't 

  necessarily the simple little registration exercise I'd thought they were.
  They 

  (the  denizens) may desire more content, e.g. sec 

  considerations, in this doc. We'll see. Nominally, I think it's "good
  enough" 

  as is, especially since the SAML spec sets have thorough sec considerations 

  sections and I've referenced said spec sets carefully. Anyway, we'll see.

  

  Also, I based this on a draft registration for application/rdf+xml. In that 

  draft, Aaron Schwartz claimed an optional parameter of "charset",
  and indicated 

  that the considerations thereof are the same as for
  "application/xml" (as 

  documented in http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3023.txt). Additionally, he did the 

  same thing for the "encoding considerations", i.e. said they were
  the same as 

  for "application/xml". So, without excrutiating research, I did the
  same thing 

  in this draft. fwiw/fyi.

  

  anyway, lemme know whatcha think.

  

  thanks,

  

  JeffH

  
 

 

  
  

  
  

  

  
 

 

  
  
#0158: Propose changes to definition of Federation in
  glossary

  
 

 

  
  
Owner: Prateek Mishra

  
 

 

  
  
Status: Open

  
 

 

  
  
Assigned: 30 Apr 2004

  
 

 

  
  
Due: ---

  
 

 

  
  
Comments:

  
 

 

  
  

  
  

  

  
 

 

  
  
#0165: Propose errata process for 2.0 specs

  
 

 

  
  
Owner: Prateek Mishra

  
 

 

  
  
Status: Open

  
 

 

  
  
Assigned: 22 Jun 2004

  
 

 

  
  
Due: ---

  
 

 

  
  
Comments:

  Rob Philpott 2004-06-22 16:38 GMT

  By the time we complete the 2.0 specs, we need an approved process for
  collecting and dealing with errata for the specs. Hal recommended looking at
  the XACML process.

  
 

 

  
  

  
  

  

  
 

 

  
  
#0114: Propose language to address attribute-based
  federation

  
 

 

  
  
Owner: Prateek Mishra

  
 

 

  
  
Status: Open

  
 

 

  
  
Assigned: 19 Jan 2004

  
 

 

  
  
Due: ---

  
 

 

  
  
Comments:

  Prateek Mishra 2004-01-20 03:22 GMT

  We could break the bilateral assumption that account linkage and

  identity federation are equivalent. We could provide a unique

  definition for account linkage that includes but doesn't depend

  on identity federation ("one can accomplish AL through IF or

  through other means, such as exchange of attributes" or similar).

  

  Maryann:

  Agrees with this idea.

  

  Prateek:

  So account linkage becomes the umbrella term. But can both IF be

  accomplished without AL?

  

  Scott:

  As an example, his university has contracts with various SPs, but

  Scott personally doesn't. There's an agreement to provide

  service based on attributes.

  

  A lot of people have been using account linking instead of

  identity federation, because the latter has become so overloaded.

  

  Prateek:

  The notion of identity federation could be particularized as

  attribute-based SSO in one case.

  

  Scott:

  We need to stress the "identity" part rather than the

  "federation" part in that circumstance, but he agrees.

  

  Eve:

  Though this proposal doesn't need to address attribute-based

  account linking/identity federation, we may want to add glossary

  terms for that.

  

  

  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/security-services/200312/msg00064.html

  
 

 

  
  

  
  

  

  
 

 

  
  
#0125: Propose language to explain that AuthNResponse may
  contain attribute statements

  
 

 

  
  
Owner: Prateek Mishra

  
 

 

  
  
Status: Open

  
 

 

  
  
Assigned: 16 Feb 2004

  
 

 

  
  
Due: ---

  
 

 

  
  
Comments:

  Prateek Mishra 2004-02-16 14:46 GMT

  Easy to do but needs proposal on validity of assertion life-times as well.

  
 

 

  
  

  
  

  

  
 

 

  
  
#0168: Provide advice on preventing caching in proxies/agents

  
 

 

  
  
Owner: Hal Lockhart

  
 

 

  
  
Status: Open

  
 

 

  
  
Assigned: 22 Jun 2004

  
 

 

  
  
Due: ---

  
 

 

  
  
Comments:

  Rob Philpott 2004-06-22 16:47 GMT

  Hal agreed to solicit expert advice on the mechanisms used to prevent caching
  by proxies and user agents.

  
 

 

  
  

  
  

  

  
 

 

  
  
#0176: Provide sequence diagrams for profiles

  
 

 

  
  
Owner: Jeff Hodges

  
 

 

  
  
Status: Open

  
 

 

  
  
Assigned: 23 Jun 2004

  
 

 

  
  
Due: ---

  
 

 

  
  
Comments:

  Rob Philpott 2004-06-23 20:14 GMT

  as discussed at F2F #5.

  

  Diagram for BAP sent to list.

  
 

 

  
  

  
  

  

  
 

 

  
  
#0150: Relax Single AuthNStatement Constraint

  
 

 

  
  
Owner: Scott Cantor

  
 

 

  
  
Status: Open

  
 

 

  
  
Assigned: 29 Apr 2004

  
 

 

  
  
Due: ---

  
 

 

  
  
Comments:

  Prateek Mishra 2004-04-29 22:02 GMT

  o SC- Response Profile more extensive than that for AuthnRequest

  

  o IR - the restriction that there be only a single AuthenticationStatement is
  too strict, SC- OK (will change)

  

  *** AI: Scott: Relax AuthenticationStatement Occurrence

  
 

 

  
  

  
  

  

  
 

 

  
  
#0141: Review/fix boilerplace text for Artifact Protocol

  
 

 

  
  
Owner: Eve Maler

  
 

 

  
  
Status: Open

  
 

 

  
  
Assigned: 27 Apr 2004

  
 

 

  
  
Due: ---

  
 

 

  
  
Comments:

  Prateek Mishra 2004-04-27 15:24 GMT

  o Prateek: Should we sign or authenticate? 

  

  o Scott: Common language on all protocol messages. 

  

  o Prateek: Concerned about text on line 2118 "...SHOULD be signed or
  otherwise authenticated...." 

  

  o Scott: Not a MUST, need to provide some recommendation to protect message. 

  

  o Eve: this is boiler plate text for all messages. Need to agree on the
  correct text for this. 

  

  ***Follow-up: Review/fix boilerplate text re: recommendation for protecting
  messages

  
 

 

  
  

  
  

  

  
 

 

  
  
#0138: Schema snippet for UID Attribute Profile

  
 

 

  
  
Owner: Scott Cantor

  
 

 

  
  
Status: Open

  
 

 

  
  
Assigned: 27 Apr 2004

  
 

 

  
  
Due: ---

  
 

 

  
  
Comments:

  Prateek Mishra 2004-04-27 15:10 GMT

  XML schema for UID/OID plus friendly name

  
 

 

  
  

  
  

  

  
 

 

  
  
#0160: Separate Privacy concerns language from
  Element/Attribute descriptions

  
 

 

  
  
Owner: Prateek Mishra

  
 

 

  
  
Status: Open

  
 

 

  
  
Assigned: 30 Apr 2004

  
 

 

  
  
Due: ---

  
 

 

  
  
Comments:

  Prateek Mishra 2004-04-30 18:14 GMT

  Jeff H - We need to highlight privacy considerations related to core, could
  be notes in core, could be section. 

  *** AI: Prateek - will generate list potential changes from core

  
 

 

  
  

  
  

  

  
 

 

  
  
#0178: SessionIndex clarifications

  
 

 

  
  
Owner: John Kemp

  
 

 

  
  
Status: Open

  
 

 

  
  
Assigned: 23 Jun 2004

  
 

 

  
  
Due: ---

  
 

 

  
  
Comments:

  Rob Philpott 2004-06-23 20:16 GMT

  As discussed at F2F #5:

  John K. to clarity text on 909-911 on SessionIndex

  and

  John K. to look up why SessionIndex is required

  
 

 

  
  

  
  

  

  
 

 

  
  
#0132: Text to explain privacy reqts when using certain
  NameFormat values

  
 

 

  
  
Owner: John Kemp

  
 

 

  
  
Status: Open

  
 

 

  
  
Assigned: 13 Apr 2004

  
 

 

  
  
Due: ---

  
 

 

  
  
Comments:

  
 

 

  
  

  
  

  

  
 

 

 

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