Hi Eve - these look great! Thanks very much.
If folks think "intention" is too "MUST"-like, perhaps changing it to a
"goal" would soften it a bit. I can live with either one.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eve L. Maler [mailto:]
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 1:16 PM
> To: ''
> Subject: [security-services] Proposed charter and standing rules
>
> Folks-- Attached are a revised charter and a corresponding set of
> standing rules. I believe I made all the requested edits to the
> charter, and I have started to use the new proposed OASIS filenaming
> rules for that file. I hope we can discuss these in the next meeting.
>
> Regarding the proposed standing rule(s) on IPR requirements, here is
> what I learned in talking to the LegalXML folks and an attorney in my
> company:
>
> - LegalXML has a specific reason for using the "in no event" (MUST)
> language regarding producing RF specs. Since their outputs are used by
> the public sector, particularly courts, the technologies using their
> specs have to be as open as possible.
>
> - They see no reason for a provision not to accept non-RF contributions,
> since the OASIS copyright provisions allow for the reuse of contributed
> material, and since TC spec outputs are judged wrt patents regardless of
> whether the patented material was included with foreknowledge or not.
>
> - To quote John Greacen, the LegalXML person who kindly responded to my
> queries: "One other solution to the IPR issue has been suggested by one
> of our TC members -- that we may choose in the future to leave some
> areas of specifications open with a note that there are several
> effective proprietary solutions available in this area and users of the
> standard should investigate them and choose one. We could even list the
> vendors in the specification. I think that approach would be consistent
> with our charter provision." Such a solution would apply to us as well,
> in any case where we choose an RF path.
>
> - My company attorney weighed in on the value of softening the wording
> from "In no event..." (MUST) to something like "It is the intention..."
> (SHOULD). He pointed out that a SHOULD version it has no legal teeth,
> but it serves as business purpose in indicating (obviously) our intent
> and direction. So he felt it's a reasonable thing to do, if that's what
> we want.
>
> Given the above, in the attached standing rules document I have proposed
> the following singular IPR standing rule:
>
> "It is the intention of the TC not to approve any technical
> specification if it believes that the use, distribution, or
> implementation of such specification would necessarily require the
> unauthorized infringement of any third party rights known to the TC, and
> such third party has not openly specified and agreed to provide
> necessary license rights on perpetual, royalty-free, non-discriminatory
> terms."
>
> On re-reading this, I wonder if this isn't too MUST-like... But
> hopefully sending it out will give people a chance to seek input from
> their own corporate attorneys etc.
>
> Eve
>
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