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RE: [security-services] SOAP Profile of SAML vs WS-Security: Summ aryand an Action Plan
Title: RE: [security-services] SOAP Profile of SAML vs WS-Security: Summary and an Action Plan Yes, it is important that SAML Binding and perhaps even SAML Data Model factor in the Microsoft GXA's WS-Security and WS-License specifications. I had originally pointed to the bindings group that WS-Security needs to be evaluated on Oct. 24, 2001. See: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/security-bindings/200110/msg00023.html I believe I had also discussed this at the bindings discusison at F2F#5 meeting on Nov. 14th in San Francisco w.r.t. supporting an interoperatable authentication data exhanges with Microsoft GXA Web Services that may be WS-Security aware. So, I am pleased to see that finally this is becoming of interest to the WG w.r.t. SOAP Binding: >We need to review the current contents of the SOAP profile in >light of the WS-Security and WS-License proposals. One possible >outcome would be to build the SOAP profile as an instance of >WS-Security and expose SAML assertions as a specific instance of >the credential notion described in WS-License. However, >all of this will take some time and considerable discussion. I have reviewed WS-Security in some detail and I agree that current SOAP Profile is compatible with WS-Security since we are assuming underlying envelope to be SOAP 1.1. However, I suggest the following set of options that we need to discuss: 1. Since the currennt WS-Security encapsulates authentication data into the Credential element defined in a generic way as: <xsd:element name="credentials"> <xsd:annotation> <xsd:documentation> This element defines the WS-Security credentials header. It's purpose is to encapsulate credentials that are agreed to between the SOAP producer and consumer. Credentials have additional properties which are defined in the WS-Security specification located at: http://msdn.microsoft.com/ws/2001/10/Security/. This header is designed to allow all valid SOAP attributes as well as other namespace qualified attributes that are appropriate in the context that this is being used within. </xsd:documentation> </xsd:annotation> <xsd:complexType> <xsd:sequence> <xsd:any namespace="##other" processContents="lax" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded"/> </xsd:sequence> <xsd:anyAttribute namespace="##other" processContents="lax"/> </xsd:complexType> </xsd:element> WS-Security potentially allows SAM enabled appliations to use any defintion of Credentials. The problem is that SAML WG threw out Credential from its object model. Instead what we now have is thje definition of Subject element. We have done some mappings here at Commerce One between WS-Security Credentials and SAML's Subject. Sematically, WS-Security Credential can be bridged/integrated with Subject. 2. Exploiting WS-Security Credential "any namespace" If we decide to integrated SAML components (such Sibject) with WS-Security's (see: ws-security.xsd) Credential via "any namespace" option, there is going to be one drawback for non-SAML compliant, GXA-enabled .NET applications which is that the .NET app would need to maintain the SAML schema locally to process the Credentials of SAML flavor unless we include the target namespaces for SAML in the WS-Security "bindings". 3. Using Subject Type directly w/WS-Security Directly integrating SAML components w/WS-Security Credential There is also another option we have to fit in the current SOAP Binding with WS-Security and WS-License. We don't extend WS-Security Credential. Instead we propose a direction application of SAML Subject and Assertions into WS-Security Credential and other license objects. This option potentially implies providing not only a SOAP Binding for SAML, but also a WS-Security Binding for SAML. 4. SAML Extensions of WS-Security/License Abstract Models We also need to explore the Abstract Credential and Abstract License model (defined as part of ws-license.xsd), and how it relates with SAML Object Model. I can provide feedback on that too. Finally, I think we should include the above WS-Security considerations in our Issues List so that it can be tracked. I have concrete propsoal for some of the above options, whenever we are ready to talk about it further. thanks, Zahid -----Original Message----- From: Mishra, Prateek [mailto:] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:24 AM To: Subject: [security-services] SOAP Profile of SAML vs WS-Security: Summary and an Action Plan SOAP Profile of SAML vs WS-Security ------------------------------------------------- The SOAP profile of SAML (Section 4.2, bindings-09) describes the secure attachment of SAML assertions to SOAP messages. The main idea here is that SAML assertions may be placed within the SOAP envelope and XML-DSIG may be used to ensure the secure attachment of assertions to a specific payload. In October 23, 2001, a family of specifications concerned with SOAP messaging were published on MSDN. Of these, two are of particular interest to the SAML community: WS-Security http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnsrvspec/h tml/ws-security.asp <http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnsrvspec/ html/ws-security.asp> WS-License http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnglobspec/ html/wslicspecindex.asp <http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnglobspec /html/wslicspecindex.asp> WS-Security is concerned with several different security topics (e.g., encryption) but two components are relevant to the SAML SOAP Profile. * The Credentials section discusses a mechanism for associating security information, such as Kerberos tickets, with a message. * The Integrity section discusses how to use XML-Signature [XML-Signature] <http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnglobspec/html/ws-security.asp?fra me=true#ws-security_xml-signature> to ensure that SOAP messages are not tampered with during message transmission. A general construction is given for attaching a "credential" to a SOAP message. Use of an "integrity header" (utilizing XML-DSIG) is described to ensure message integrity. WS-License describes XML elements that can be used to express several different types of credentials: X.509 certificates, Kerberos tickets and arbitrary binary blobs. CONCLUSION: ------------------- The proposals in WS-Security and WS-License are clearly relevant to the SAML SOAP Profile. They do not in any way make the contents of the SOAP profile redundant; on the contrary, by proposing "infrastructure" for the inclusion of generic "credentials" in SOAP messages they highlight the importance of the SAML SOAP Profile in XML messaging. We need to review the current contents of the SOAP profile in light of the WS-Security and WS-License proposals. One possible outcome would be to build the SOAP profile as an instance of WS-Security and expose SAML assertions as a specific instance of the credential notion described in WS-License. However, all of this will take some time and considerable discussion. I would therefore propose the removal of the materials on the SOAP profile from the current bindings draft. These materials, together, with the WS-Security and WS-License proposals, would be used as the basis for a new draft SOAP profile document. The TC would review this information and submit a SOAP profile to OASIS in the near future (Q2/02). NOTE: -------- For reasons unknown to me, the above links do not always correctly lead to the two specifications. An alternative path is to view the table of contents displayed on the LHS frame and directly access the specifications from the TOC. ---------------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>
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