David,
With the exception of what they are trying to do over in ICG, Farrukh is
right -- ebXML Registry is being used for everything but what the
original ebXML vision called out. Most of us realized at some point
that commercial viability is a very important part of what we were
doing. I don't agree with staying on the old definition of registry --
it does not acurately represent reality. The original vision is merely
a single use case of many.
-Matt
David Webber (XML) wrote:
>Joe,
>
>Sorry - but you are wandering here IMHO!
>
>It's a bird, its a plane, its a hovercraft, and it
>floats too.
>
>Bottom line is ebXML registry has become
>very multi-faceted.
>
>If we're talking about the original ebXML
>vision for the registry - that is much clearer.
>
>But today - it is being purposed widely.
>
>I think we need to be true to the original
>focus, while admitting that people are
>finding, and will continue to find cool and
>interesting new applications.
>
>BTW - look at what UNCEFACT have
>asked for - I think we see then the "pure"
>focus on ebusiness information alignment.
>
>Cheers, DW
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Chiusano Joseph" <>
>To: "Farrukh Najmi" <>; <>
>Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 9:38 PM
>Subject: RE: [regrep] What is an ebXML Registry
>
>
>I agree with the definition that Farrukh presents below. I see it as
>being inline with the definition at the top of our current RS 3.0 spec:
>
>"An ebXML Registry is an information system that securely manages any
>content type and the standardized metadata that describes it."
>
>So I don't believe that a goal of ebXML Registry is to define a content
>management system - rather, the goal is to provide a foundational
>capability that can be leveraged for content management, as well as
>event registration and management, as well as metadata management, as
>well as Web Services registration, maintainence and discovery, as well
>as....
>
>Joe
>
>Joseph Chiusano
>Booz Allen Hamilton
>Visit us online@ http://www.boozallen.com
>
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Farrukh Najmi [mailto:]
>>Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 4:35 PM
>>To:
>>Subject: [regrep] What is an ebXML Registry
>>
>>Matthew MacKenzie wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Everyone,
>>>
>>>Is it the goal of the ebxml registry tc to define a content
>>>
>>>
>>management
>>
>>
>>>system? If so, I question the wisdom of that. Perhaps we
>>>
>>>
>>can explore
>>
>>
>>>this issue, and the greater issue of the registry
>>>
>>>
>>standard's direction
>>
>>
>>>going forward.
>>>
>>>
>>This seems a little break from the topic of the original
>>thread so I am changing the name of the thread to reflect the
>>new twist.
>>
>>In my straw dog definition of ebXML Registry standard, I see
>>us defining a standard for "Federated, Secure Information Management"
>>where "Information Management" consists of managing all types
>>of electronic content and metadata that describes such content.
>>
>>Does this sound familiar? Does it closely describe what we as
>>a standard have been doing since our inception some 4 years ago?
>>
>>I personally believe that this definition provides a basis
>>for describing what ebXML Registry is and what it is not.
>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Matt
>>>On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 3:51 pm, Carl Mattocks wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I did have a look at the Version 1.2 of the Fedora project
>>>>
>>>>
>>in early
>>
>>
>>>>2004.
>>>>
>>>> Via registration of interest (to get download) I declared my
>>>>allegiance with the ebXMLRegistry TC. They may or may not have
>>>>followed through and looked at the TC materials.
>>>>
>>>>I consider their work as being orthogonal .. the obvious
>>>>
>>>>
>>intersecting
>>
>>
>>>>point being management of artifacts.
>>>>
>>>>carl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>><quote who="Chiusano Joseph">
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Farrukh - I was just about to send that same announcement
>>>>>myself.
>>>>> I definitely see some parallels in their features to our
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>v3.0 specs.
>>
>>
>>>>> Some of their support is academic (university-based).
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>> Joseph Chiusano
>>>>> Booz Allen Hamilton
>>>>> Visit us online@ http://www.boozallen.com
>>>>><http://www.boozallen.com/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Farrukh Najmi [mailto:]
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 6:21 AM
>>>>> To:
>>>>> Subject: [regrep] Fedora repository project
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This caught my attention in Cover pages:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://xml.coverpages.org/ni2005-03-18-a.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Fedora Repository Service [server]
>>>>> <http://www.fedora.info/download/2.0/userdocs/server/index.html>
>>>>> * Fedora Repository Web Service Interfaces
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>><http://www.fedora.info/download/2.0/userdocs/server/features/featur
>>
>>
>>>>>es.h
>>>>>
>>>>> tml>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone have any more insights or contacts with this
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>community?
>>
>>
>>>>> If so we should try to
>>>>> make them aware of ebXML Registry 3.0 standard and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>see if there
>>
>>
>>>>>is interest in supporting
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Farrukh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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