Let's face some facts here....if the specification's home is on the MSDN site, it is not open enough for incorporation to this specification.
You have to ask yourself "If it is open, why doesn't the copyright holder donate it to a standards body so that it's future is controlled by a consensus-based exercise?". Easy answer, from my cynical mind: Control.
On Mar 19, 2004, at 10:02 AM, Chiusano Joseph wrote:
David RR Webber wrote:
Anne,
There certainly are no hard and fast rules around standards.
Depends on the domain in which you function of course - in the US
federal domain, we point to OMB Circular A-119[1], which defines what a
"voluntary consensus standard (VCS)" is.
Joe
[1] http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/circulars/a119/a119.html
However - I suspect we often clarify this by using metrics
that denote when things are clearly NOT an open standard -
such as license fees, use agreements and solely own
implementations. One also expects good neighbour
behaviours and contributions to the better good - rather
than hidden agendas and clear attempts to bait-and-hook
or displace one practice with another.
So - when something is obviously the equivalent of open
source - and indeed much open source itself - then it
has the possiblity of becoming recognized as a de facto
standard. I'd say your WS-Addressing is looking
like coming under this umbrella.
The one that I always like to reference is PKZIP of
course that is the exception that proves the rule(s).
Thanks, DW.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anne Thomas Manes" <>
To: "Monica J. Martin" <>; "Chiusano Joseph"
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Cc: "Farrukh Najmi" <>; <>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: [regrep] [Fwd: [regrep-semantic] IBM BI-ICS]
For the most part I prefer to reference standards works as opposed to
private works, but I make exception for some things -- especially when
they
provide essential functionality AND when they contain an open copyright
notice. Such is the case with WS-Addressing.
WS-Addressing provides essential functionality -- a standard mechanism to
reference a Web service endpoint. In my opinion, it's one of the most
critical WS specifications published last year. I am not aware of any
competitive effort that is currently defining this type of mechanism.
And I suggest you read the copyright notice [1]. It the most open spec
notice I've ever seen.
[1]
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnglobspec/html/ws-addressing.asp
Anne
At 11:01 PM 3/18/2004, Monica J. Martin wrote:
Chiusano: I completely agree - a perfect example is WS-Addressing,
which is
referred to in multiple emerging open specifications (too numerous to
mention).
mm1: WS-Addressing is an emerging specification. It is not open (only
available on a web site).
mm2: Correction, I misread your sentence Joe. There are at least two
specifications in an open standards organization that do reference
WS-Addressing. Thanks.
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