Title: RE: [regrep] Minutes of today's meeting
Maybe
I'm just confused and not following this discussion accurately, but once again,
I fear we are confusing registry content with the data registered. Core
Components and UBL vocabulary items, if someone chooses to register them, fall
into the latter category. Only their metadata goes in the registry. Tell me
if I've got it all backwards.
Sally
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From: CHIUSANO, Joseph
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Subject: RE: [regrep] Minutes of
today's meeting
David,
Thanks for your thoughts - I always appreciate and value your
insight.
I wonder if the requirements of the 2 representations of
"Organization" are vastly different, due to their purposes. For a
vocabulary such as UBL, there may be a need to identify an Organization to a
finer level of detail then a registry. A registry may require only very
high-level information (as our RIM does, with Address, Parent, Primary
Contact, and Phone #'s), while in a transactional environment it may be
required to exchange more detailed Organizational information between parties
(such as the countries in whicih the organization does business,
etc.).
Because of its purpose, the CIQ information is (as you know)
very fine-grained. I would not imagine that in a registry, one would
want/need to include such fine-grained name and address information (it might
be overkill).
Regards,
Joe
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-----Original Message-----
From: David
RR Webber - XMLGlobal [mailto:]
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 1:31 PM
To: CHIUSANO, Joseph
Cc: ebXML Regrep (E-mail);
'Nikola'
Subject: RE: [regrep] Minutes of today's
meeting
Message text written by "CHIUSANO, Joseph"
>
Ah, I see...so, for instance, if the UBL
representation of Organization and
the registry class
for organization matched, the registry could potentially
accept a UBL transaction containing Organization information as a means
to
create an instance of an Organization class within
the registry, thereby
alleviating the need for a user
to enter this information. The same could
apply
for class PostalAddress, class PersonName, etc.
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Joe,
Forgive me for saying this - it appears to be the tail wagging
the dog.
UBL should be following the Registry organization definitions,
and
if they have issues with those - should be making
a proposal to
Registry on it.
Also - OASIS CIQ TC is creating core component definitions of
address, person and organization - so really that
again would
be where one would expect this detail to
harmonize - since that
is the exact scope for the CIQ
work in the first place!
Since the OASIS CIQ has participation from USPS, USGov
and
other groups reviewing such standards I suggest
they definately
represent a strong authority on such
definitions.
I'm not sure what policy UBL has - but one would expect them
to defer such technical matters to existing domain
groups -
and especially when the domain group happens
to be an
OASIS TC!
Cheers, DW.
