Re: [office] Mapping of lists from ODF 1.1 to ODF 1.2

Hi Oliver,

      

      thank you for your quick response.

      

      Am 20.03.2014 14:00, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:

    

    Hi,
      

      

      I do not know a fully mapping
        between
        the list level attributes in ODF 1.0/1.1 and the new ones
        introduced in
        ODF 1.2. 
      

      If such a mapping would exist,
        the new
        list level attributes had not been proposed by myself :-)
      

      

      Please have a look at the
        discussions
        taking place on the TC's mailing list regarding the
        corresponding proposal
        - links to the threads are [1]..[7].
      

      The last one - [7] - contains the
        final
        proposal and contains corresponding examples.
      

      One of the main motivations for
        the
        new list level attributes was the interoperability with the way
        how Microsoft
        Word specifies its list levels and that these could not be fully
        mapped
        to the one in ODF 1.0/1.1. Mapping the ODF 1.0/1.1 list level
        attributes
        to the Microsoft Word one is also not completly possible.
      

      

    
    Are you aware of any pictures showing how the attributes are being
    applied to a list in the document (showing the combination of the
    various lengths)

    If not, would you as the proposer be able to create some?

    Thus, -1 from my side
        to deprecate one
        of the list level attribute models - both are needed.
      

    
    From my current understanding the new list XML set offers a better
    OOXML interoperability (likely even providing a higher feature set)
    and was overtaken for instance by the AOO Writer.

    Why do we still need the old list model?

    
      

      [1] https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/200701/msg00063.html
      

      [2] https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/200702/msg00029.html
      

      [3] https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/200703/msg00002.html
      

      [4] https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/200703/msg00004.html
      

      [5] https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/200703/msg00006.html
      

      [6] https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/200703/msg00014.html
      

      [7] https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/200703/msg00031.html
      

      

      

      
    Thank you, seems like a good lecture for a long train
      ride (I will have soon),

      Svante

    
    
        

        Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards

        Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

        

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      From:      
         Svante Schubert
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      Date:      
         20.03.2014 12:23
      

      Subject:    
           [office] Mapping
        of lists from ODF 1.1 to ODF 1.2
      

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      Dear TC members,

          

          Is someone able to point out a reference where the mapping of
          ODF 1.1

          list attributes to ODF 1.2 is being described in detail?

          

          I have found

        https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Writer/Numbering#New_list_level_attributes

          Still in the above URL the explicit mentioning of ODF versions
          and XML

          attributes is missing.

          In addition for an easier comparison the same list example
          might have

          been shown in both models and the description how to map is
          missing.

          

          Example of ODF 1.1

          <text:list-level-style-number text:level="9"
          style:num-suffix="."

          style:num-format="i">

             <style:list-level-properties
          text:space-before="11.114cm"

          text:min-label-width="0.318cm" fo:text-align="end"/>

          </text:list-level-style-number>

          

          Example of ODF 1.2

          <text:list-level-style-number text:level="10"
          style:num-suffix="."

          style:num-format="1">

             <style:list-level-properties

          text:list-level-position-and-space-mode="label-alignment">

                 <style:list-level-label-alignment

          text:label-followed-by="listtab"
          text:list-tab-stop-position="6.985cm"

          fo:text-indent="-0.635cm" fo:margin-left="6.985cm"/>

             </style:list-level-properties>

          </text:list-level-style-number>

          

          Our specification might be enhanced by some picture showing
          lists and

          explaining how the XML attributes are being applied to the
          indent for

          the two ODF models or do I have simply overseen it?

          In addition we should consider deprecating the old one, as why
          do should

          we need more than one list model and provide a description of
          the

          transition from the old to the new model.

          

          Any help would be most welcome!

          

          Thanks in advance,

          Svante

          

          

          

          

          

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