Re: [office] Single XML file

From
Svante Schubert <>
Date
2012-08-29T18:43:32+00:00
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Re: [office] Single XML file
AFAIK the single file format was once
      introduced to provide easy XSLT support.

      

      Unfortunately it was not taking serious as the round trip of ODF
      documents between single file format and ZIP is broken. 

      A zipped ODF saved as single file and loaded as saved as zip back
      is not guaranteed to produce the same info set of the original
      zip.

      For instance, embedded files other than images get usually lost,
      in addition the single file gets invalid when multiple similar XML
      IDs exist in the files and even similar named automatic styles
      from content and styles XML will cause a problem.

      

      IMHO we should either specifying the single format in a way that
      it is 100% compatible, e.g. 

      a) like a specified generic mechanism to map any file into the
      single stream 

      b) like a specified mapping of IDs (XML, style names) of various
      files (e.g. with the file path+name as prefix) into the single
      file

      or dropping the whole thing. 

      

      I would tend to drop it, as I see only burden to the implementor,
      even the ODF Toolkit does not implement it. But I can not see the
      overall benefit for the ODF format.

      There is no problem in using such a file format internally, if it
      suits the needs (e.g. WebODF), but IMHO it is just a bad idea to
      specify it as an ODF document exchange option.

      

      PS: Even in XSLT it gets annoying as all images will be BASE64
      encoded, parsed by the XML parser, causing time inefficiency and
      often out-of-memory exception, instead references inside the ZIP
      could be resolved using SAX EntityResolver oder URIResolver. 

      

      Svante

      

      On 29.08.2012 20:23,  wrote:

    

    I thought WebODF used
        the single file XML
        representation.  Jos would be able to confirm.
      

      

      -Rob
      

      

      <> wrote on
          08/29/2012
          11:47:31 AM:

          

          > From: Patrick Durusau <>
      

      > To: , 
      

      > Date: 08/29/2012 11:49 AM
      

      > Subject: [office] Single XML file
      

      > Sent by:
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      > 

          > Greetings!

          > 

          > Since there are almost three weeks until the next TC
          meeting, I am
          

          > hopeful that everyone can decide if the single XML file
          format option
          is 

          > something they really need? See: 

          > https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/OFFICE-3781

          > 

          > It is probably doable, but I don't see the value-add from
          keeping
          it as 

          > an option.

          > 

          > Thoughts/suggestions?

          > 

          > Thanks!

          > 

          > Hope everyone is having a great day!

          > 

          > Patrick

          > 

          > -- 

          > Patrick Durusau

          > 

          > Former Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34

          > Convener, JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3 (Topic Maps)

          > Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor
          ISO/IEC 26300

          > Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps)

          > 

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