I agree. Are there one or two TCs that have this potential
problem of weighting the voting and work of the TC to one dominate organization?
If so, work with those TCs to right the issue, emphasizing the need for broad
representation and not wanting to have the appearance of a one dominate
organization, rather than change the rules, which are working fine for 98% of
the TCs (just taking a guess at the percent - I have no idea how many might be
in that situation).
Kathryn Breininger
Boeing Library Services
425-965-0182 phone
From: David RR Webber (XML)
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Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 10:36
AM
To: John Borras
Cc:
; Frederick Hirsch
Subject:
RE: [oasis-member-discuss] Fw: [chairs] Possible change to TC voting rules -
input requested
John,
That's a good question.
Perhaps OASIS has some specific TC's in mind where the mix of participation
seems to be somewhat unbalanced?
But again - this seems to be something - if they are aware of concern -
they could easily address directly with the party/ies concerned - and work out
some mutual agreement with the TC chair?
Thanks, DW
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Original Message --------
If your last para is true then where's the whole concern underlying
this question come from?
Regards
John
M. +44 (0)7976 157745
----- Original Message ----
From: David RR Webber (XML)
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To: John Borras
<>
Cc:
; Frederick Hirsch
<>
Sent: Monday, 23 October, 2006 4:59:06
PM
Subject: RE: [oasis-member-discuss] Fw: [chairs] Possible change to TC
voting rules - input requested
John,
I'm inclined to say this whole question is moot.
Even the most resource flush companies - find it hard to justify having
more than 3 or 4 people on the same committee!
In practice budget and project resource issues, deadlines and
deliverables are the biggest restriction here.
Unless someone can really show where this has been consistently abused -
I personally cannot remember any company (even the really big ones) having
more than about 3 or 4 people on a committee for an extended period of
time. They quickly remove the non-essential persons and re-assign
them.
If the BOD did find that an OASIS TC had been "stacked" - they have
an opportunity to refer the standard approval back before it becomes finally
approved - and ask for input from more members / contributors - and / or OASIS
voting members themselves can also decide not to approve the specification if
they feel its not representative enough.
DW
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Subject: Re: [oasis-member-discuss] Fw:
[chairs] Possible change to TC
voting rules - input requested
From:
John Borras <>
Date: Mon, October 23, 2006
11:39 am
To: Frederick Hirsch <>
Cc:
Hi Frederick.
My thinking was if there are currently say 5 people from the
same organisation on a TC and they all can vote them they will probably
all contribute fully. Restricting that org to one vote might mean 2, 3
or 4 of them might become inactive thus reducing participation. If the
org was restricted to say max 3 members who can all vote then there's a
strong chance you would keep a higher level of active participation
from that org. All ifs and buts and maybes I appreciate but
possibly IMHO a better chance of keeping good participation.
Clearer?
Regards
John
M. +44 (0)7976 157745
----- Original Message ----
From: Frederick Hirsch
<>
To: ext John Borras
<>
Cc: Frederick Hirsch
<>;
Sent: Monday, 23 October, 2006
4:08:28 PM
Subject: Re: [oasis-member-discuss] Fw: [chairs] Possible
change to TC voting rules - input requested
John
Thanks for your note.
Is not restricting
participation level more restrictive than
restricting voting,
and more likely to potentially reduce involvement?
I'm not quite sure
how this suggestion addresses your concern about
reducing
participation.
Perhaps I misunderstood your comment, hence my
reply.
regards, Frederick
Frederick
Hirsch
Nokia
On Oct 23, 2006, at 4:01 AM, ext John Borras
wrote:
> This is a difficult one and I can see the arguments on
both sides.
> My main concern would be the effct that
reducing voting power would
> have on
participation. That's often hard enough as it is. So
on
> balance I would say leave things as they
are.
>
> Perhaps the way to stop large organisations dominating
TCs and
> votes would be to restrict the number of active
members, and hence
> votes, they can have on a
TC? This would have the added effect of
> them
not dominating the debates within TCs which can be equally
a
> problem as dominating voting.
>
>
Regards
> John
> M. +44 (0)7976 157745
>
>
>
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> Dear Chairs,
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> TC
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>
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>
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>
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