EDXL standards concerns - Jon Skeels

All,

 

The purpose of this memo is to capture for
the record dialog initiated by Jon Skeels to Tim Grapes on 11/28/2006.  The
dialog was initiated by Jon in reference to the in-progress draft standard
being worked in the Standards Working Group, but then focused on EDXL standards
in general.  Below is a record of feedback received by Jon.  I have
been working to schedule a meeting to hear the specifics of Jon’s
concerns.  I was again able to reach Jon by phone the morning of 12/6/06. 
Jon asked for time to coordinate with his technical team to provide detailed
feedback.  Jon agreed that next steps are in his court to contact me when
he is ready to schedule a conference call to discuss further.  The
contents of this message will also be included in the meeting minutes of the
OASIS Messaging and Notifications sub-committee, since that group did attempt
to schedule the discussion with Jon while the group is together working on RM
this week.

 

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Following the messages and voicemail
below, some phone tag was played.  The following is from a voice message from
Jon to me on 12/1/06: 

 

“Fact is it goes
back to a lot of my comments I made all along - you guys have separated
incident heading data from the request data and it’s a huge problem
– it just isn’t going to work.  And it isn’t working in
the ICS world either.  Exactly what I was saying has come to pass…
Fact is we implemented it (EDXL standards) where we could but the standard ICS
resource system that performs ordering, system status, incidents, requests,
fulfillment, etc. all need to be included in the same set of standards.  I
know there was a lot of discussion but you guys decided not to do this, and
it’s just not going to work…”

 

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Jon Skeels Message 11/29/06 in response to
Tim Grapes providing minutes and other documents from the SWG process (which
initiated this dialog):

Tim: 
Thanks for the information.  I will review.  In regards to the

web-services we are implementing
and there alliance with EDXL, I believe we 

have tried to follow the standard,
but have found in many cases that the 

standard won't work (in fact may have
hindered us).  Our goal was to follow 

the standard.  I will get with
our contractors and get an assessment and 

advise you of our issues.

Jon

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Thanks,

Tim Grapes

Evolution
Technologies, Inc.

Department of Homeland
Security

Science and Technology, C4ISR

Office for Interoperability and Compatibility

Disaster Management egov Initiative

Office:  (703)
654-6075

Mobile: 
(703) 304-4829

 

 

From: Tim
Grapes [mailto:] 

Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006
7:57 AM

To: 'Jon Skeels'

Subject: Let me know a time this
week

 

Hey John,

Sorry I missed your call on Friday.
 I appreciate you following up with details, but it would be helpful if we
could spend a few minutes this week on the phone to better understand the
implementation issue.  Give me any time that’s good for you and
I’ll send a conference line.

 

Actually, this is a perfect time to
hear what you’ve found – input from the field in invaluable.
 The OASIS committee is meeting this week Tues through Thursday to work on
the Resource Messaging specification together.   

 

We’ll work around any time
that’s good for you.

Thanks,

Tim Grapes

Evolution Technologies, Inc.

Department of Homeland Security

Science and Technology, C4ISR

Office for Interoperability and Compatibility

Disaster Management egov Initiative

Office:  (703) 654-6075

Mobile: 
(703) 304-4829

 

 

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