Sounds like the best course of action. Thanks for checking.
JoAnn
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On 8/26/13 12:10 PM, "Eliot Kimber" <> wrote:
>I got a response from Felix. The net of his response is that no-one has
>yet
>figured out a complete markup solution to the complex typographic
>requirements outlined in this document:
>
>http://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#ruby_and_emphasis_dots
>
>Thus, there is as yet no general consensus on the proper Ruby markup
>design.
>
>That suggests that our best course of action is to avoid the issue for now
>and see what settles out. I can also spend a bit more time reviewing the
>referenced document and see if I can contribute to the design discussion
>in
>HTML5 or wherever it's happening.
>
>Cheers,
>
>E.
>
>
>
>On 8/26/13 12:43 PM, "Nancy Harrison" <>
>wrote:
>
>> Submitter's message
>> Note action items:
>> 1. All TC members need to review the release management proposal (link
>>below)
>> 2. Eliot will contact Felix Sasaki re: status of HTML5 wrt ruby elements
>>
>>
>> Minutes of the OASIS DITA TC
>> Tuesday, 20 August 2013
>> Recorded by N. Harrison
>>
>> regrets: Deb Bissantz
>>
>>
>> Standing Business
>> =================
>> Minutes from last meeting:
>> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201308/msg00012.html (6
>>August,
>> Nancy Harrison)
>> Proposed by Kris, seconded by Joann, approved by TC
>>
>>
>> Subcommittee Reports:
>> DITA Adoption TC Sept
>>
>> Announcements:
>> none
>>
>>
>> Business
>> ========
>> 1. DITA 1.3 progress
>> Progress: No changes
>> Update on current deadlines:
>> http://chris.nitchie.com/trellotrack/#511a73d76ee890a51c0007ed
>> Trello Board: https://trello.com/b/gPKH0OcF
>> Priority for Aug is to finish stage 2 proposals
>>
>>
>> 2. DITA 1.3 proposals, stage 2:
>> http://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/DITA_1.3_Proposals-stage2
>>
>> Special meetings were held last week on the proposals from the Help SC
>>(13060,
>> 13061) and the troubleshooting topic proposal (13097). (The results of
>>the
>> troubleshooting topic meeting are covered below, with the discussion of
>> 13097.)
>>
>> Help SC proposals meeting (Stan's overview) included Stan, MichaelP,
>>Robert,
>> Kris, and Tony Self, the author of the proposals. As a result of the
>>meeting,
>> the Context ID proposal, 13060, will be modified to implement the
>>change as an
>> expansion to resourceid, rather than a specialization of it. Tony Self
>>has
>> written up the changes and submitted them for review
>> For 13061 (window placement), the conclusion of the meeting was to let
>>that
>> proposal stand as written.
>>
>> Ready for vote:
>>
>> Proposal 13106: Updates to learning domain interactions elements
>> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201308/msg00019.html
>> Proposed by JohnH, 2nded by Scott, approved unanimously
>> Yes votes: Anderson, Day, Doherty, Eberlein, Hackos, Hamilton, Harrison,
>> Helfinstine, Hudson, Kimber, Magliery, Nitchie, Warman
>>
>> Proposal 13112: RelaxNG for DITA vocabulary (Kimber)
>> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00082.html (HTML)
>> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00084.html (PDF)
>> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00083.html (DITA)
>> Proposed by Eliot, 2nded by DickH, approved unanimously
>> Yes votes: Anderson, Day, Doherty, Eberlein, Hackos, Hamilton, Harrison,
>> Helfinstine, Hudson, Kimber, Magliery, Nitchie, Warman
>>
>> Proposal 13061: UA Window Definition (Help SC)
>> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201307/msg00103.html (DITA,
>> uploaded 31 July)
>> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201307/msg00104.html (HTML,
>> uploaded 31 July)
>> Proposed by stan, 2nded by Joann, approved unanimously
>> Yes votes: Anderson, Day, Doherty, Eberlein, Hackos, Hamilton, Harrison,
>> Helfinstine, Hudson, Kimber, Magliery, Nitchie, Warman
>>
>>
>> Ready for discussion:
>> Proposal 13097: New troubleshooting topic
>> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201308/msg00042.html (DITA)
>> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201308/msg00041.html (HTML)
>> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201308/msg00040.html (PDF)
>> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201308/msg00039.html
>>(DITA-OT
>> plug-in)
>> Bob Thomas reported; during the mid-week special meeting, one major
>>conclusion
>> was that the current IBM troubleshooting structure, or at least trying
>>to
>> maintain compatibility with that structure, was having a negative
>>impact on
>> creating an appropriate new structure. As a result, Michael and Robert
>> released the requirement that #13097 had to be backwards compatibles
>>with
>> IBM's structure. Having done that, they immediately realized that a
>>number of
>> elements could be tightened up. The only question left is whether we'll
>>need
>> titles be on the 3 section-type elements. The TechComm SC has agreed to
>> remove titles from the content model in those elements.
>> - Kris; changing the backwards compatibility requirement made this much
>>more
>> OOTB usable.
>> - Robert; maintaining compatibility meant that users had to choose
>>between 2
>> ways to do anything; they would have been very confused.
>> - Kris; I highly recommend that folks work with Bob's DITA-OT plugin to
>>test
>> the content models.
>> Resolution; vote next week
>>
>>
>> 3. DITA 1.3 proposals, stage 3:
>> https://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/DITA_1.3_Proposals-stage3
>>
>> Stage 3 review process: Responsibilities of proposal owner and reviewers
>> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201306/msg00126.html
>>(Eberlein, 25
>> June)
>>
>> Ready for discussion
>>
>> Proposal 13118: New domain for Ruby markup (Kimber; reviewed by
>>Harrison and
>> Hamilton)
>>
>>
>>https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dita/download.php/50070/pro
>>posal
>> -13118-rubydomain-stage-3.dita.pdf
>> {*} https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201308/msg00015.html
>> (recommendation from JoAnn)
>> - Kris; where do we stand on this; should we move forward or not?
>> - Eliot; We either go forward with this, with risk that HTML5 will
>>change away
>> from it, or postpone it. Since it's already in D4P, it's already
>>available to
>> anyone who needs it, and that can be updated without having to go
>>through the
>> OASIS process.
>> - Joann; Felix, the Japanese expert on the TechComm SC, recommended
>>that it
>> wait.
>> - Eliot; There is, of course a question as to whether HTML5 will ever be
>> finalized...
>> - Don; they've committed to not changing the number
>> [discussion on lack of stability of HTML5 - it can and will change at
>>any
>> time]
>> - Don; do we want to track HTML5 or not? as a standard or a
>>transformational
>> target?
>> Resolution; Eliot will contact Felix on status of ruby in HTML5
>>
>> Ready for vote:
>> none
>>
>>
>> 4, New ITEM: [dita-techcomm] DITA 3.0 Stage 2 release management (13102)
>> proposal question
>> {*} https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201308/msg00009.html
>> Stan gave overview; (Tom Cihak came on later, after having had some
>>trouble
>> connecting) Tom & he SC identified areas that have architectural
>>issues (e.g.
>> what's a list vs. an editable list? should the information be in
>>booklists, or
>> a tight little specialization of prolog?)
>> - Kris; is SC now thinking in terms of a smaller proposal?
>> - TomC; the plan is to specialize prolog, plus put in a placeholder for
>> elements that aren't processed by the DITA-OT, but could be harvested
>> downstream by a processor. Booklists was suggested, but booklists are
>> published in the document, and this content ordinarily wouldn't be.
>> - Eliot; anything done for this shouldn't be specific to bookmap,
>>should work
>> for maps generally.
>> - Don; notes need to be collected where they lie or in some gathering
>>place.
>> - Joann; one of our major use cases was medical devices; those
>>manufacturers
>> have to create a report on every note within their documents.
>> - TomC; we're doing same thing in Frescale; we're currently collecting
>>notes
>> in separate topics, but would prefer the changes to be within the
>>actual topic
>> - Kris; thanks to the SC for the work on the proposal; note that within
>>the
>> 1.3 schedule, it's coming late to the TC as a whole.
>> - Don; the problem is really in 2 parts, which we need to separate in
>>order to
>> make progress.
>> 1. is there a complete way to indicate metadata?
>> 2. how do we indicate collection and use of that metadata?
>> - Joann asked for a vote on the proposal.
>> - Kris; a complete version of the proposal hasn't been fully discussed
>>by the
>> TC, so we can't yet vote on it. Depending on how quickly the proposal
>>could be
>> completed and brought before the TC, it might or might not make it into
>>1.3.
>> Other important functionality - e.g. Lightweight DITA - has already been
>> separated from 1.3.
>> - Don; Let's we give this proposal one extra week to get completely
>>cleaned
>> up. - Kris; We can do that, but we need to avoid putting 'half-baked
>>stuff'
>> into 1.3; we're still feeling the impact of having done that at 1.2.
>> - Don; It could alternatively be put out as 'committee notes' or third
>>party
>> specializations
>> - Kris; As dita grows, we have to draw lines between standard and
>>secondary
>> specializations.
>> ActionItem; all TC members; please look at this proposal very carefully
>>
>>
>> NEW ITEM
>> Eliot asked about the process for stage 3 proposals that are finished,
>>in
>> terms of submitting them to KAVI. Kris and Robert will invetigate this
>>and we
>> can discuss it next time.
>>
>> meeting closed at 11:56
>>
>> -- Nancy Harrison
>> Document Name: DITA TC Meeting Minutes 20 Aug 2013
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