Re: [dita] Product names and reuse

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Re: [dita] Product names and reuse
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Troy, there were a couple of
        questions that I want to ask. Did the company's style guide
        restrict the content developers as to how they used the product
        names, for example, using product names only in the nominative
        case?

        

        Were the product names translated or left in English? I think
        translated, based on your post, but wanted to check -- some
        companies handle the problem of reusing company names by NOT
        translating them.

        

        You mentioned using attributes to indicate plurals or
        possessives; did you do anything to handle case or part of
        speech?

        

        Thanks for your interesting post!

        

        
Best,

          Kris

          

          Kristen James Eberlein

          Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting

          Co-chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee

          Charter member, OASIS DITA Adoption Committee

          www.eberleinconsulting.com

          +1 919 682-2290; kriseberlein (skype)

          

        

        On 1/16/2013 8:47 AM, Troy Klukewich wrote:

      

      
        
        Hi Andrzej:

        

        We translated the English XML content and mapping files into
        multiple languages, including Chinese, Japanese, and Arabic,
        which are probably some of the more difficult languages to
        translate. The agencies worked with our build kit and generated
        translated versions per language, including PDF. Granted, we had
        some great development resources to program the XSLT and XSL:FO
        appropriately to handle multiple languages. 

        

        I do remember some iterations where translation had to tweak the
        PDF output until we programmed a solution (indexing was
        challenging for Japanese, right-to-left languages, etc.). In any
        case, the amount of total manual work translation had to perform
        versus previous iterations was massively reduced with subsequent
        cost savings and rapid turn-around. From what I recall, we
        reached 100% automation for all languages handled.

        

        If you could be more specific about which language morphologies
        cannot work with variables, I'd be interested. In some cases,
        the best solution might be to dump out an XLIFF with resolved
        values for variables, so the base XML isn't translated, but the
        XLIFF version of the same with a two-way transformation back to
        the build kit for a translated version of deliverables.

        

        Some translation groups will work with build kits, some don't,
        so this also needs to be factored into workflow.

        

        So I suspect that there may be no perfect global solution to
        handle all possible languages from base DITA XML, but a
        technical solution that handles most and then an alternate
        workflow for those languages that cannot work with variables as
        such.

        

        Troy

        

        On 1/15/2013 1:34 PM, Andrzej Zydron wrote:
        
          
          
Hi Troy,

              

              Thank you for
                this interesting post. Your mechanism will work for English, and
                  the small group of languages with a similar primitive
                morphology.
                Unfortunately it will fall apart when you come to
                translate
                the XML content
                  into any
                    language with a richer morphology - the
                      resultant output will produce ungrammatical
                          output and the cost of recovery from this
                            will be extensive. 

                          

                          English is a linguistic freak (a fact that is
                                              lost on most monolingual
                                                English speakers)

            which allows for the relative easy substitutions that you described. I you plan to translate your
                content into other languages this is not a practical possibility.

            

            

              
              
              
              
              
              

                
Best Regards,

                

                  Andrzej Zydroń

                  

                
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