Mary, can you help with the following questions?
1.
Where do we find a list of the OASIS members that will be voting
on DITA 1.2?
2.
What happens if we do not get a positive 15% vote? The TC
Processes says “the ballot is deemed to have failed and the submission
fails.” But what does this mean in terms of where we would return to in the processes?
Best
regards,
Kris
Kristen
James Eberlein l DITA Architect and Technical
Specialist l SDL Structured Content Technologies Division l (t) + 1
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From: Mary McRae
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Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 11:49 AM
To: Michael Priestley
Cc: ; Don Day (LbW); Kristen Eberlein
Subject: Re: [dita] Changes in OASIS TC processes and when we can send
the DITA 1.2 spec to OASIS for a vote
Hi Michael,
You would need to submit by 15 Oct for a
November vote; that can't happen since you'll still be out for public review. I
agree and typically advise against December votes, however WebCGM has done it
and passed so we know it's possible, and certainly DITA has a much larger
following than WebCGM.
Regards,
Mary
On Oct 5, 2010, at 11:32 AM, Michael Priestley wrote:
Hi Mary,
I think we're
really looking for a standard in 2010. My one concern is that a December vote
would be hard to get numbers for.
Is there any
way to move up the process to allow a vote in November?
Michael
Priestley, Senior Technical Staff Member (STSM)
Lead IBM DITA Architect
http://dita.xml.org/blog/25
From:
Mary
McRae <>
To:
Kristen
Eberlein <>
Cc:
"Don
Day (LbW)" <>,
<>
Date:
10/05/2010
11:18 AM
Subject:
Re:
[dita] Changes in OASIS TC processes and when we can send the DITA 1.2 spec
to OASIS for a vote
Hi everyone,
Thanks, Kris, for drawing everyone's attention to the process changes
about to take place. I think the TC is well within the timeline to get to
ballot in Dec or Jan under the old rules unless another round of changes is
anticipated after the public review that is about to be announced.
The one point to consider if it's delayed beyond that is that another 60
day public review will be required at the new Candidate OASIS Standard stage.
I am planning to come to each TC meeting for a quick review of the
changes and to answer any questions and will be sending a message later in the
week requesting a 15-min time slot.
Regards,
Mary
On Oct 5, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Kristen Eberlein wrote:
Hi,
Don and the rest of the DITA TC.
I
have an additional item that I think should move to the front of the agenda for
today’s meeting. It concerns changes in TC rules and when we anticipate
being able to get the DITA 1.2 spec out for an OASIS vote. (I also think that
we need to work on the items that must be submitted to Mary at the same time as
the request for an OASIS vote; see items highlighted in red
below.)
Will
we potentially be able to send the DITA 1.2 spec out for a vote in 2010, or
will it need to happen in 2011?
Under
the old rules, the following conditions apply, which would mean that the
earliest an OASIS vote could occur is December 16-31.
· The DITA TC can approve a
committee specification no sooner than seven days after a public review ends.
The vote is by ballot that OASIS administration sets up. The TC can
simultaneously request to submit the Committee Specification to the Membership
of OASIS for consideration as an OASIS Standard.
· Upon resolution of the TC to
submit the specification for consideration as an OASIS standard, the TC submits
the following items (copied verbatim) to the TC Administrator:
· (a) Links
to the approved Committee Specification in the TC’s document repository, and
any appropriate supplemental documentation for the specification, both of which
must be written using the OASIS templates. The specification may not have been
changed between its approval as a Committee Specification and its submission to
OASIS for consideration as an OASIS Standard, except for the changes on the
title page and running footer noting the approval status and date.
· (b) The
editable version of all files that are part of the Committee Specification;
· (c)
Certification by the TC that all schema and XML instances included in the
specification, whether by inclusion or reference, including fragments of such,
are well formed, and that all expressions are valid;
· (d) A clear
English-language summary of the specification;
· (e) A
statement regarding the relationship of this specification to similar work of
other OASIS TCs or other standards developing organizations;
· (f) The
Statements of Use presented above;
· (g) The
beginning and ending dates of the public review(s), a pointer to the
announcement of the public review(s), and a pointer to an account of each of
the comments/issues raised during the public review period(s), along with its
resolution;
· (h) An
account of and results of the voting to approve the specification as a
Committee Specification, including the date of the ballot and a pointer to the
ballot;
· (i) An
account of or pointer to votes and comments received in any earlier attempts to
standardize substantially the same specification, together with the originating
TC’s response to each comment;
· (j) A
pointer to the publicly visible comments archive for the originating TC;
· (k) A pointer to any minority reports delivered by one or more
Members who did not vote in favor of approving the Committee Specification,
which report may include statements regarding why the member voted against the
specification or that the member believes that Substantive Changes were made
which have not gone through public review; or certification by the Chair that
no minority reports exist.
· The
above submission must be made by the 15th of any month to the TC Administrator,
who shall have until the end of the month to complete administrative processing
and checking for completeness and correctness of the submission. If the
submission is incomplete it shall be rejected but may be resubmitted at a later
time.
· The
TC Administrator shall submit the proposal to the OASIS Membership by the first
day of the following month. The first 15 days of that month shall be used by
the membership to familiarize themselves with the submission. Voting shall
start on the 16th of the month. The voting representatives of those OASIS
Organizational Members who were members at the beginning of the familiarization
period are eligible to vote, and must cast their ballots by the end of the
month.
The new
rules introduce the following changes (as well as others):
· There
is no longer a fixed timeline requiring submissions to be made by the 15th of
the month; submissions may be made at any time.
·
No
familiarization period is required prior to a vote by OASIS membership.
Best
regards,
Kris
Kristen
James Eberlein l DITA Architect and Technical Specialist l SDL
Structured Content Technologies Division l (t) + 1
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From: Don Day (LbW) [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 8:48 AM
To: ;
Cc:
; Kristen Eberlein
Subject: Re: [dita] When will the 15-day review be announced
Hi. I'm bumping this request in hopes that I can provide the DITA TC with an
outlook at our meeting coming up later this morning. Given that the requested
changes were timely effected due to prioritized turnaround on our end, I
thought it would be considerate to get a sooner response.
--
Don Day
Chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee
On 9/30/2010 1:33 PM, Kristen Eberlein wrote:
Hi, Mary and
Kim.
When will the
15-day review be announced?
Best
regards,
Kris
Kristen
James Eberlein l
DITA Architect and Technical Specialist l SDL Structured
Content Technologies Division l (t) +
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From: Kristen Eberlein [mailto:]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 8:05 AM
To: Kim Goolsby; Mary McRae
Cc:
Subject:
RE: [dita] Changes required to submitted document - Darwin Information Typing
Architecture (DITA) Version 1.2
Many thanks,
Kim!
Best
regards,
Kris
Kristen
James Eberlein l
DITA Architect and Technical Specialist l SDL Structured
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From: Kim Goolsby [mailto:]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:26 AM
To: Mary McRae
Cc: Kristen Eberlein;
Subject:
Re: [dita] Changes required to submitted document - Darwin Information Typing
Architecture (DITA) Version 1.2
Hi all,
I'll upload the spec this morning. I am so glad this is resolved!
Best,
Kim
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Mary McRae <>
wrote:
(one more time, sorry)
And my apologies to Kim for trying to answer too many questions at once and not
paying close attention to the matter at hand.
Mary
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Mary McRae <>
wrote:
Hi Kristen,
Yes, that's fine since you have the separate change log; while the blank
page isn't perfect, it doesn't harm or detract in any way.
Regards,
Mary
On Sep 29, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Kristen Eberlein wrote:
Hi,
Kim.
1.
Since the “Revision history” was indicated as optional in
the OASIS template, we decided to omit it from our committee drafts. Therefore
we do not want to reintroduce it at this point.
2.
I can delete page 1237 from the PDF output. However, all
the pages will continue to be marked with “Page x of 1237.” I think retaining
the blank page is better.
Thoughts?
I very much appreciate your help with this matter.
Best
regards,
Kris
Kristen
James Eberlein l DITA Architect and Technical Specialist l SDL
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From: Kim Goolsby
[mailto:]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:42 PM
To:
Cc:
mary.mcrae
Subject: [dita] Changes required to submitted document - Darwin Information
Typing Architecture (DITA) Version 1.2
TCADMIN-243
Please make the
following change:
1. Please add a
'Revision History' appendix to this document.
2. Looking at
the pdf, there is an empty page 1237 at the end of the document. I suggest
removing this.
Thank you,
Kim
--
Kim Goolsby
Publications Specialist
OASIS Open: Advancing open standards for the information society
email:
web: www.oasis-open.org
phone: 1.734.223.6890
--
Mary P McRae
OASIS
Director, Standards Development
TC Administrator
Member Section Administrator
OASIS: Advancing open standards for the
information society
email:
phone: 603.232.9090
--
Kim Goolsby
Publications Specialist
OASIS Open: Advancing open standards for the information society
email:
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phone: 1.734.223.6890
